I get the feeling from your recent post that you are a Muslim, Dreamon. Firstly, only a Muslim could be thick enough to suggest the points you have made. Secondly. your use of the term "your ADF" and "your mob", suggests that whoever you are, you do not consider yourself Australian, and that your sympathies are with the enemy.

Please note, Dreamon, that we westerners do not like it when our soldiers are killed in action, so we do everything within our power to give them the weapons they need to

send as many of your Jihadis mates to paradise as they can, without getting killed themselves. The reason why we are killing your crazy friends 10 or 20 to one, is because we are a scientifically advanced civilisation. Which is more than can be said for religious nutters like yourself, or your religious nutter terrorist friends that you support.

If you want to fight us, Dreamon, you take on our technology. Crying "foul" because we are kicking the ever lovin' sheet out of you with our drones and our smart bombs, just makes us laugh. Your boys should have done a little thinking before they tried to Jihad us. But thinking is not what you Muslims are exactly famous for.

Last I heard, the Taliban, Al Qaida, and ISIL, all sheeting blue bricks every time they hear the lawnmower sound of a Predator drone overhead. The US air Force says that terrorising terrorists is fun. Your friends never know who is going to be blown to smithereens by a Hellfire missile coming down on them like the wrath of God. They can't meet, they can't train, and the yanks just love it when they try to travel. That is the best time to squish the slimeballs, vapourising them and their cars remote from innocent bystanders. Their friends have to pick them up with tweezers and bury them in buckets.

The Taliban are so scared that they are now sleeping in caves in Waziristan. And Allah has got so many Jihadis in heaven, that he is running out of virgins.

Thanks R0bert, for picking me up on a phrase which could have been better worded.

It is the responsibility of parents to pass on worthy and upstanding values to the next generation. Would we agree? Now, it could be we disagree over certain values. And some disagreement can be healthy, which is why we need the protection of 'freedom of speech', to allow for healthy criticism.

So I agree with Maher on the importance of our supposed civic freedoms. But I think he's incredibly short sighted to say that its only religious values that rely on 'indoctrination' for their survival.

Maher said religious values exist "ONLY because they are drummed into the heads of innocent babes." Is he ignorant of the many time honoured cultural legacies that have well served our communities for generations? Babies appreciate them, but intelligent adults can recognise them too.

I suppose when there is freedom to speak, there is freedom to occasionally make loose statements.

Dan, if I understand you correctly I agree with all of that last post.

The aspect of parental responsibility and rights in regard to raising children is not a simple topic. Responsible parenting is certainly not something that can be legislated (nor for that matter can the influences of others be easily regulated). There is a balance in there between trying to instil good habits and values which does not always sit easily with teaching our children to make their own decisions.

In almost every direction there are extremes which ar not in the childs best interests but which may suit the agendas of the parents.

R0bert

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