Joe

<<Imagine the screams of 'compassion' from Hanson-Young if he had been returned to Iran.>>

EXACTLY!
SBS, the ABC and all the tax-payer funded advocates would have run a SAVE POOR MONIS CAMPAIGN, and made him out to be a new Mother Teresa.

I love the cowardly game the Greens are now playing distancing themselves from ex state labor leader Robertson who wrote a reference for Monis. The Greens more than any other group are responsible for the likes of Monis getting here.

Apparently the defenders of Monis like Onjab believe if a Muslim man blows himself up in the middle of a public space, screaming Allah Akbar as he detonates the explosives he's not really a Muslim terrorist because either the West made him do it or he wasn't really a Muslim. Likewise when a man who has proven to be a fully functioning member of society, albeit controversial and criminally inclined, and as far as we know has no history of mental illness, holds hostages; displays an Islamic flag; demands to talk with Tony Abbott to negotiate the hostages freedom, states he is doing this act for ISIS and eventually kills a hostage; he also is not a terrorist but a deranged gunman. Islam never has anything to do with the numerous terrorists committed almost on a daily basis around the globe.

So Onjab, NC, McAdam, Junaid let me get this straight? To be a genuine terrorist one must be sane; crazy people cannot be terrorists; to blow yourself up is not usually associated with sanity and so not terrorism. Terrorism is committed by Western governments in defence of people under attack by righteous Muslim extremist who are also not terrorist. All terrorists come from the West and anyone who questions such logic is a bigot?

Conservative Hippie please answer the questions I asked, why have the hostages mouths been shut, the names of the four injured,, who shot them, perhaps you can enlighten me, could this whole thing been handled better where no lives were lost, I do not like terrorists any more than you do, but until the actual truth comes out of the whole exercise it is open to cover up, you may think my thoughts are my own but many people are very suspicious of a Government that can lie, their aim to create a police state for all of us, you may want that I want to feel free to demonstrate if need be. Poverty and unemployment is going to create many more deranged, sorry terrorists, people do not need all stupid religions to be mentally deranged. Sorry again terrorists, I forgot.

Something just hit me. The Islamic lovers are saying Monis wasn't an Islamic Terrorist. He was just a "deranged individual." Hmmm...

Then I suggest that all the Paedophiles Priests that the same people blame on the Catholic Church, strange they never mention other Denominations, Boy Scouts or the Salvos, must also be "deranged individuals" too. Just a thought.

The same people that go out of their way to support these terrorists are also the ones that condemn only the Catholic Church. Why is that?

@LEGO, Thursday, 25 December 2014 4:45:07 AM

That is unfair. For any who are familiar with my posting history I am probably long in argument and most usually cite sources.

On this occasion I believe that the video I linked to puts a reasoned case, contributing to the thread.

Since that was your only post on the thread, might not your criticism apply to yourself?

To On The Beach.

I don't respond to links because I have been burned before. Some contributors have cited links as their arguments, and then when I took the time to analyse and criticise the double standards and contradictions on those links, they simply responded "I didn't agree with that part of the link anyway."

Whatever you agree with on your links, summarise it and present it as a reasoned argument, in your own words.