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Australian-Indonesian relations threatened by executions : Comments

By Duncan Graham, published 22/12/2014

The first batch is reportedly all Indonesians, but the next group could include Australians Andrew Chan, 30, and Myuran Sukumaran, 33. The two men, members of the Bali Nine drug syndicate caught in 2005 and sentenced in 2006, have exhausted all appeals.

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Everybody with half a brain knows what the penalties are if they get caught trafficking drugs in many of the Asian countries!
Yet they continue to run this particular gauntlet!

I mean, everyone who has volunteered for front line duty, knows that his or her life could be forfeit in a heartbeat!
And would therefore not volunteer, unless the risk and reward were both acceptable! Ditto civilian emergency response forces!

Yes it's always sad when any young life is snuffed out performing a duty, or trying to save or rescue someone else!

Drug traffickers on the other hand have no noble motives whatsoever, and may even contribute to the death of an innocent or hardened addicts; made so by just these activities.

So, if the risks aren't acceptable when measured against the reward, well just don't bother.

If you chose to undertake such risky business, it's your lookout if you come to grief!

And make sure you don't leave home with a suitcase or travel-bag unlocked; least you be used as Shapelle Corby was alleged to have; and by thoroughly tainted evidence that would've been accepted in few other places!

However, if you knowingly transport drugs through foreign jurisdictions, even highly suspect or patently corrupt or inherently evil ones?

Just cop it sweet, ditto if caught poaching illegally!

Do the crime do the time; or where it's still the law, worse!

Personally, I'd bring back capital punishment for some crimes!
There are worse things than murder, and some will offend again and again at the first opportunity.

In conclusion let me say, if you don't want to face the firing squad in Bali, don't get caught trafficking drugs in Bali or other equally dangerous places, including Saudi Arabia!
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 22 December 2014 8:50:32 AM
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Indonesians doing the dirty in Australia should be subject to Australian law. Australians doing the dirty in Indonesia should be subject to Indonesian law. It's that simple.
Posted by david f, Monday, 22 December 2014 9:20:08 AM
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Sorry Duncan, time to grow up little man. As Rhrosty says, if you do the crime, you accept you do the time, if you get caught. We don't need bleeding hearts sobbing all over these criminals, who don't give a damn about anyone else..

I do like your emotive garbage about "shredding torsos". It is just that, cheap garbage.

It is about time we sent a few of our senior politicians up there to learn how to dispense justice, & how to run a prison, rather than a holiday camp for thugs.

When we see these drug profiteers worrying about the harm caused to the people who's lives the drugs destroy, it might be time to feel some sympathy for them, meanwhile let the shredding commence.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 22 December 2014 9:22:47 AM
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There are several solutions in this case.

They could be let off with a suspended sentence. (That is to say, suspended from a large oaken beam by a strong hempen rope.)

On the other hand, their case could be processed, as Breaker Morant would have advocated, under rule 303.

I find it difficult to argue with opponents of the death penalty as their arguments seem to be completely emotional.

The only comforting thing about the several recent encounters with islamic terrorists in Australia is that in each case there was an immediate administration of the death penalty. Considering that the death of a person facing life imprisonment in NSW saves the government over a million dollars in prison costs, the question is, in the case of the recent siege in Martin Place, who fired the million dollar shot?
Posted by plerdsus, Monday, 22 December 2014 6:41:26 PM
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There should be a fund opened to recompense the Indonesian Government for the ammo expended.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 22 December 2014 6:47:32 PM
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I'm with the others on this one, we enter their country and in doing so accept their laws. If we don't like it, don't go there. Its just a pity we don't make certain groups respect our laws.

The bit that puzzles me is why these guys are getting the chop, yet Chapel gets off. A woman thing perhaps!
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 6:14:14 AM
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