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Anti-religious card is poor way to oppose Abbott's uni policy : Comments

By Mike Bird, published 11/12/2014

Theological colleges teach a variety of courses on subjects like ancient Greek, ancient Hebrew, introduction to philosophy, ethics, Reformation history, overseas aid and development....

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It is not anti-religious to argue that the state should not subsidise religion/s: it is about the separation of church and state. Our constitution says that there should be no religious test for any office under the crown. It is a reasonable extension of that provision to argue that there should be no religious test for any student subsidised by the crown, i.e. no payment for anyone whose faith or adherence to a church, mosque etc is--de jure or de facto--an entry qualification for a course of study.
Posted by Asclepius, Thursday, 11 December 2014 10:58:12 AM
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the state subsidies and promotes the global warming religion, feminist studies, evolutionary fantasy and the list goes on. The bigotry by indoctrinated ideological motivated fairfax/national broacaster journalist knows no bounds.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:07:23 AM
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Government has no authority to fund universities and colleges of any kind with tax-money stolen from us. Thus the anti-religious argument is indeed irrelevant.

By funding universities, government creates an artificial competition whereby one cannot even gain employment as a cleaner without formal tertiary degree - not to mention child-care and aged-care, which fathers and mothers, uncles, aunts, sons and daughters, nephews and nieces were practising for millennia without any degree.

Real skills are something one is born with - or not. Knowledge was always available to those who are truly interested in studying - how more so today with the accessibility of the internet, with myriad of very cheap or even free courses available. Those who indeed want to learn can easily make the arrangements themselves, as opposed to those who only seek formal recognition through degrees.

The sole motivation of the political class is to feed their academic friends within their favourite institutions, so that they depend on them, keep voting for them and teach their young impressionable students to do the same.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:16:37 AM
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Never mind that most, if not all, of what is promoted as religion, especially by the Centre for Public Christianity, and most of the "theology" and "divinity"(LOL) schools (Ridley College for example) is entirely in the realm of make believe, with no basis in Reality.
Its "creator"-God being the invention/projection of an essentially childish, even infantile mommy-daddy emotional disposition.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:43:53 AM
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"First, to clarify, only a few colleges actually train priests. Most colleges train pastors, hospital chaplains, military chaplains, missionaries, youth workers, overseas aid workers, and social workers. Putting "priests" in the headline might be a big attention grabber, but it is also misleading."

Theological-trained missionaries, youth workers, over seas aid workers, and social workers are more likely to be evangelists and proselytizers, so are essentially priest/preacher-like.
Posted by McReal, Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:53:12 AM
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Żes McReal

Theological-trained secularist, warmist, evolutionist, over seas aid workers, and social workers are more likely to be evangelists and proselytizers, and suck on the public purse most their lives. Must conform to the group think especially if you want that tax payer funded job.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 11 December 2014 12:20:27 PM
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