Ultimately the people in Yuyutsu's visionary world will fall victim to either tribalism, the need for some of their neighbour's territory or become the servants of a bully war lord. Humans don't have a good track record of living in peaceful coexistence.

Even Utopia will have some form of law, some form of acceptable and unacceptable cultural practices, and those who care about the law.

This article deliberately seeks to confuse the issue.

Abbott was referring to the absence of loyalty to this country
and the Australian people as a whole, When he spoke of Team Australia.

The fact that the Muslims in this country couldn't answer a direct yes, is very telling.

Well, answer the question, where does your allegiance lie?

No this is not a debate about the running of the country as the
writer of this article seeks to imply but a direct question to
the Muslims who race to fight with the warlords, who threaten
Australians through the media and through their supporters here.

Just where does your loyalty lie? don't try to fudge the meaning
of the word team, you know dam well what it means in this case.

Your outrage at the word team and it's meaning is nought but a
smokescreen.

Don't be so silly, Cherful.
Sensible peoples' loyalty lies with kindness, generosity, consideration, affection, honesty, hospitality, compassion, charity, humour, gentleness, equality, listening, egalitarianism, respect for the elderly, love of children, diligent respect for the land, plants and animals. They do not follow blindly any leader or party, because that reduces them to mindless robots.
Your exaggerated fear of Muslims is unfounded. OK, so they believe in an invisible, omniscient, omnipotent superman in the sky who watches their every thought and move, ready to punish or reward, but so do all the millions of Christians and lots of other religions. It makes them seem silly to free-thinkers, but not dangerous. I didn't detect any outrage, merely a desire to point out the idiocy of calling a country a team.

Dear Hippie,

<<Ultimately the people in Yuyutsu's visionary world will fall victim to either tribalism, the need for some of their neighbour's territory or become the servants of a bully war lord. Humans don't have a good track record of living in peaceful coexistence.>>

Why, nothing needs to change in this regard.
Today the big state serves (or is supposed to serve) a defence-pact in order to keep the peace within and without. Smaller states are still capable of keeping their peace from within while nothing stops them from making defence-pacts with other states to keep the peace from without.

<<Even Utopia will have some form of law, some form of acceptable and unacceptable cultural practices, and those who care about the law.>>

The law is too crude a tool - common sense is so much better!

Those who want to live under a law can still do so, only they may not impose their laws over those who are not interested: against those, they instead apply common-sense as defence. I have just explained the difference on another thread: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16764#297026

ybgirp-<Sensible peoples' loyalty lies with kindness, generosity, consideration, affection, honesty, hospitality, compassion, charity, humour, gentleness, equality, listening, egalitarianism, respect for the elderly, love of children, diligent respect for the land, plants and animals>

You can be kind,generous and all those things you list above with
the exception of honesty
and still be disloyal to your wife or husband.

Loyalty simply means commitment and honesty. In this case it is not about the state or leaders it is about being loyal to the "people" of Australia as a whole,"team Australia" as Abbott put it.
Not being loyal to a particular ethnic group, religion or tribe
above your loyalty to the Australian people as a whole.

All the civil wars in the world at the moment seem to involve
these muslim religious tribes(and they are tribes at the bloodline
level) because their religion forbids marriage outside of their
believers)

They tear countries into divided groups and then want to fight
for control of the countries they are in. And yes the
Christian religions have done the same and would still fight wars
if threatened and the reason this happens with all religions, is
simply that they practice segregation into religious groups which in the end divides and tears societies apart.

Wearing the Hijab in Australia is an example of practising
division and apartheid which has the power in the long term
as the apartheid group grows ever larger to split the
nation into two and plunge us all into civil war.

This is not an unreasonable fear or phobia, it is happening
in countries locked in conflict around the world now a we speak.
And has been happening right across the known history of man.
It is not an unreasonable fear, but is a factual observation
documented in history books and encyclopedia everywhere.

So put away your Islamophobic-call-them-names-to-shut-them-up
stick,and show me in what way historical facts don't verify what I
am saying.

Cherful,
There’s no such thing as “being loyal to the people of Australia as a whole.” we have a population of individuals with as many different ideas, thoughts and preferences as there are people. The loyalty Abbot wants is unquestioning acceptance of his ideas on how the country should be run. As I can’t agree with him on most things, to give him my unquestioning loyalty would make me a traitor to myself.
Your observations about Islam have little relevance to this discussion. While I reckon religions should only be practiced by consenting adults in private, I can’t see how wearing a hijab is any more divisive than wearing an ostentatious cross or carrying a carry-bag advertising Woolworths.
The wars you mention are only partly due to sectarian differences. Non-religious international interference has an equal responsibility. Despite being ruled by a cruel dictator, Iraq was a peaceful, functioning, secular state with excellent public education, health and welfare, in which religion played no part in public life, until the U.S.A and it’s clingers on decided to destabilise it in the hope of gaining control of resources. This is what unleashed sectarian violence and civil war.
I imagine you are loyal to Australia because Abbot embodies your prejudices. Would you feel so loyal if the government was in the hands of secular humanists who thought the function of government was to treat all citizens fairly and equally?
Wearing the Hijab on hot days seems stupid, but they have the right to be stupid, as do you. It is no more divisive than wearing too much perfume, or showing too much cleavage. What makes it divisive is public intolerance.
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