Continued...
If you doubt my take on Iraq, you might be interested in what General Smedley Butler told us in 1933, and his words are still with us, http://fas.org/man/smedley.htm
“I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912…I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.”
As you can see, nothing’s changed.

The brilliance of ybgirp - "There’s no such thing as “being loyal to the people of Australia as a whole.” we have a population of individuals with as many different ideas, thoughts and preferences as there are people."

This poor girl doesn't even know what's wrong with her statement.

Statements like that reflect the thinking that is undermining this country and western democracies; it's political correctness gone mad; it's even dishonest because the author is knowingly misrepresenting the intention of the phrase 'loyal to Australia.'

It's the do-gooder minds like this that pose as much threat to our way of life as the radical Muslims.

Dear Conservativehippie.[Hippies were the opposite of conservative when I was one...what caused your conversion?]
Please inform the poor girl [who happens to be a 74 year old male] what is wrong with the statement.
If loyalty to Australia doesn't mean loyalty to the notions of a "fair go" and equality for all, what does it mean? Allowing multinational religious corporations to pay no tax on their billion dollar profits while reducing the incomes of working poor, seems not worthy of my loyalty, nor the government's refusal to enforce the payment of taxes by other multinationals...but perhaps I'm old fashioned to think there should be a level playing field, also fo the banking system. Laissez fair capitalism, which is the religion of our present political masters, is not something I can subscribe to. So my loyalties will remain with abstract notions rather than concrete realities.