Wobbles,
So which parts of the non European world were conquered by Christian armies?
Simple answer, none of them.
Christians have a pretty good track record of butchering each other in the name of religion but not one non European country was ever subjugated in the way that Islam conquers nations.
Why is it so hard for people to accept that from the seventh to the sixteenth century Muslims destroyed almost all of the Christian world simply by exterminating Christians wherever they found them.
Before Islam all of Europe, Russia, North Africa, the Caucasus and Asia minor were Christian and European, by the 16th century Vienna was under siege and the Russians were fighting for their lives.
All of the Anglo Saxon interventions since then have been about balance of power, that's why the British and French fought on the side of the Turks against Russia in the 1850's then on the side of the Russians against the Turks in 1915.
Britain didn't really lose her empire in the 1940's and she still plays these power games to maintain supremacy.

To Mise.

If you have completed a bum Artz degree majoring in religious studies, how is it that you are so ignorant of Christianity and Islam? I presume that "religious studies" is similar to today's politically correct university degrees on "political science"? All you have to do is write a thesis brickbatting capitalism and Christianity, and finding excuses for socialism and Islam, and your professor gives you a "distinction"?

The point that you implied, was that both Islam and Christianity are violent religions. That is not entirely correct. Whereas Christianity has had a history of appalling violence, it's holy scriptures are based upon the philosophies of a Jewish pacifist. The fact that the clergy ignored the teachings of their own founder and concealed his pacifist message from their own congregations for their own self aggrandisement, does not detract from the fact that the new testament scriptures of Christianity primarily teach pacifism and tolerance. It is this widely appreciated cultural value of pacifism and tolerance which has greatly influenced modern western culture. This is the opposite of Islam, which is an inherently violent religion because it's founder was a psychopathic warlord who preached war to expand Islam, and violence towards non believers.

I was fair to you by conceding your point, that a lack of bibles was one reason why ordinary pre reformation Christians were unaware of the pacific nature of their own religion. But it would not have mattered if the Christian world was flooded with bibles. Most Christians could not read anyway, regardless of whether the language was English, Flemish, French, Greek of Syriac. Catholic bibles were written in Latin and almost nobody except the clergy could read them. And even if they could read them, they were not allowed to read them unless they were clergy members,

Gee, you probably spent $30,000 dollars on an Artz degree that could not teach you how to think. You should have saved your money and just went to the library like I did. If you need any help understanding religious studies, feel free to ask me.

Jay of Melbourne

'So which parts of the non European world were conquered by Christian armies? /Simple answer, none of them.'

ExUSE me??

There is hardly a single country anywhere on earth that has NOT been invaded by a Christian army!

I tried to think of some the other day ... and it wasn't easy. Bhutan, maybe?? Thailand??

Can anyone help me here? There must be another one or two somewhere.

mac

I'm afraid I don't share your suggestion that a religion based on Greco-Roman philosophical traditions might have been a good idea for Europe. The chief god of the Greeks spent most of his time running around raping everything that moved.

Killarney
Stop trying to squirm out of it.

Do you oppose the enforcement of all the polices you advocate, or not?

Killarney,
Name a Christian general of the stature of Muslim commanders like Tamerlane or Zheng He?

LEGO,

I studied for my first degree long before the advent of political correctness.

As for the lack of education among the masses, the many schools must have turned out some literate people,

Here's some schools in Britain before the reformation in England, i.e. pre the 1534 Act of Supremacy.

England
Former (non-extant) schools
Lincoln School (1090)
Derby School (1160)
Ludlow Grammar School (1200, Palmer's Guild) - now Ludlow College
Hull Grammar School (c.1330, endowed 1479) – closed in 2005
Cirencester Grammar School (1461) – closed in 1966
Crewkerne Grammar School (1499) – closed in 1904
Taunton Grammar School (1522) – closed in 1870

Extant schools
Sixth century
The King's School, Canterbury (abbey founded 597, Royal charter 1541)

Seventh century
King's School, Rochester (604, Royal charter 1541)
The Minster School, York (song school founded 627, refounded 1903)
St Peter's School, York (627)
Thetford Grammar School (631, mentioned 1114, refounded 1566)
Hereford Cathedral School (676, mentioned 1384)
Royal Grammar School Worcester (685, first conclusive evidence 1291, Royal charter 1561)
Carlisle Grammer School 685 founded by St Cuthbert in the grounds of what became the Cathedral It was managed by the Cathedral and became Carlisle Grammar School in 1883 and Trinity School ,_Carlisle in 1968.)

Eighth century
Beverley Grammar School (c.700)

Tenth century
The Pilgrims' School (c.900)
Warwick School (10th century, refounded 1545)
Wells Cathedral School (909)
St Albans School (c.948, refounded 1549)
Southwell Minster School (minster founded 956,
The King's School, Ely (970)

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