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Are Australia's actions in Iraq boosting revenge terrorism? : Comments
By Peter Coates, published 19/9/2014The Abbott Government's contention that Australia's return to Iraq will not increase the terrorism risk at home is dangerously contrived.
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Posted by ConservativeHippie, Sunday, 21 September 2014 3:07:22 PM
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Theories are ludicrous and pernicious that ISIL is led by a Jewish person or that the West created al Qaeda and ISIL. Extremist Muslims make their own vicious groups like AQ and ISIL.
My main concern with Western “boots on the ground" is that wherever the US goes and Australia follows, previously moderate Muslims join the extremists and then oppose Western forces. Insurgent warfare lasts for years until the West has the sense to withdraw - as it previously did in Iraq, is doing in Afghanistan – even earlier did in Vietnam. The alternative is to fight forever. Also Western "boots..." encourages Iraqi and Afghan leaders to live on a Western gravy-train with escape to the West and live in luxury when the s--t hits the fan. Meanwhile Western backed Iraqi and Afghan armies sit around and, left to themselves, surrender to ISIL and the Taliban. No amount of Western arms and training seems to work on unmotivated Iraqi and Afghan Army and police. Posted by plantagenet, Sunday, 21 September 2014 3:54:36 PM
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Conservative hippie,
Ha! In the 1940's David would have been interned whichever side he was on, if he'd been born German he'd have supported the Bolsheviks, if he'd been born in the U.S he'd have supported the Japanese. David and Suse and the others are just butthurt because their way of life has come to an end, their ideologies have failed and they have nothing to contribute to society these days. Here's a little snapshot of what multiculturalism looks like in 2014, note the very multicultural,conservative anti Mosque group facing off against what appears to be a bunch of White women who don't seem to see the irony in singing along with "I am, you are,we are Australian", it's just too funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrQ0AHsoaZU They flooded the country with people from conservative, religious societies and expected that they'd all turn into obedient Liberal minded consumers but to the surprise of no-one most of them turned out to be...drum roll..conservative and religious. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 21 September 2014 5:53:13 PM
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I don't consider myself a member of Action Man Abbott's Team Australia but Team America http://youtu.be/TmoeZHnOJKA?list=PLE689ECC5876D5566 .
An inspriring clip of our SAS in the Middle East http://youtu.be/U8XrE0FSQv4?list=PLE689ECC5876D5566 Posted by plantagenet, Sunday, 21 September 2014 6:19:13 PM
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If every able person in the Middle East had a job and $100 a day take home pay, there would be no unrest, no rebels and no fighting.
Posted by JF Aus, Sunday, 21 September 2014 8:02:17 PM
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plantagenet, "An inspriring(sic) clip of our SAS in the Middle East [cut]"
That video was unnecessary to the rather shabby political point you were scoring. Doubtless in certain quarters it is de rigueur to show elitist contempt and ridicule the men and women who volunteer and serve. Grubby. Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 21 September 2014 8:54:44 PM
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But assuming you are correct then what's the problem, it's just a bunch of terrorist fighting each other. Hopefully in the process ISIL will get eliminated.
What's your take on the War Against Fascism, commonly referred to as World War II? Was it just a bunch of greedy Imperialists picking on Germany, or was there a just cause worth fighting for?