Rhrosty, I would rather freeze to death than dehydrate myself to death in Hospice Stalin.

Even Zyklon B is faster and therefore preferable.

To quote Dying in Dignity: "None of us have the right to tell another how much suffering they can and should bear". We should all have the right to a peaceful and pain-free death at a time of our own choosing. I don't want my dying drawn out by futile medical interventions, and I thoroughly support voluntary euthanasia legislation that reduces suffering and protects patients and doctors. The sooner it is enacted, the sooner involuntary euthanasia can be controlled - it happens now.

I wonder how many here realise that the simple act of advising hospital staff IMMEDIATELY on admission of their wishes will prevent many of the cases of life preservation and extension that they are complaining about, and requiring 'regulation' of euthanasia for?

That is not to argue for or against euthanasia. It is simply to say that if you don't want your life to be saved over and over again by heroic efforts of highly trained and committed medical staff, for mercy sakes say that openly and directly to all when the ambo arrives and when you arrive at the hospital. BEFORE they start administering drugs.

It is too late after the treatment starts and medical staff might be sued by yourself, relatives or the State if they don't do everything they are trained to do.

One can only wonder why this simple act of declaring your desired treatment doesn't receive more publicity, particularly from those who say they are concerned about the terminally ill. Or is it that their politics are getting in the road and there are points to be scored?

Dear Rhrosty,

<<As someone who believes in reincarnation, and a time and a place for every individual's passing; I just don't see any value, in trying to circumvent individual karma. Which if avoided, just means we then are obliged to come back and do the whole thing over, and with an added burden or the Karma earned by taking a life! Our own, and our most valuable gift!>>

As someone who believes the same, I am shocked at your attempt to try enforcing religion on others, using the evil mechanism of state-violence.

Are you not concerned about your own karma for doing so?!

By all means, do try to convince people. By all means, do explain to them peacefully the futility of trying to escape the fruits of one's former actions, but contracting the daemonic power of the state to achieve external results through fear of being locked up? How shameful!

Do you not realise that this alliance with state has been the demise of so many religions? Do you not realise that this brought about the dark middle-ages, the bloody crusades and the Spanish inquisition? Do you not realise that this places you in company with political Jihad and the Islamic State? All that in attempt to patronise people over how to deal with their own karma!

Do you not realise that such attitudes incite others, including members of this forum, to hate religion and call for banning religion altogether and persecuting the religious (see Ojnab's response)? Are you willing to take that karma on?

As for the topic itself, I already made it clear time and again that the state has no moral authority to interfere with whatever people do between them voluntarily - nor do churches, nor do doctors.

Yuyustu:
To quote from the scripture you are so found of forcefully expounding; verily verily, I say unto you, to reach unto the kingdom of heaven ye must be born again.
And this coming from a plain speaking man, who understood most of his community were entirely illiterate; and that's why he never spoke in riddles and even went on to explain with example, what he meant! No ifs, buts or maybes!
Almost as if he knew that his words would be turned around, repeatedly revised and edited, until all trace of the original meaning would be lost.
Don't point your finger at the sty in my eye, while ignoring one in your own?
Not all that long ago, a witch doctor could have pointed a bone at a completely healthy tribesperson.
With that person responding by sinking into a deep melancholy! And dying within days.
The truth be known, it was the fact they accepted the literal death sentence, and refused all sustenance/food drink?
And then simply died from inevitable dehydration.
In today's world that bone may be the word cancer.
Particularly for people who approach all life's normal obstacles, with obdurate pessimism!
And or, would sooner give up their life, than their addiction to smoking?
Or end their lonely life, because of unbearable loneliness.
And no, cancer is not fun, but especially when it spreads into your liver, brain and or bones.
And where it gets into the bones, something as simple as coughing can snap a rib.
And believe me, it's not all beer and skittles, having to drive yourself to another town or city, to attend an xray dept, with a broken rib.
I who have survived multiple PE's and the unbelievably unbearable pain that goes with that!
More than anyone posting here, I suspect, including the parsimonious and the pious; understand the problem!
Yes it's easier, just to "put down" the "problem"!
But suppose those words written allegedly, some 2,000 years ago, in a claimed holy book, have an actual foundation in LITERAL truth, and we can't ever escape reaping what we sow? Yawol?
Rhrosty.

And yes, if people are complicit in stilling a human heart, without JUST cause. Should suffer an appropriate penalty.
So sayeth the state and every holy book; Yutustu.

And individual;
If I'd have known that I was eligible for a carer's allowance, I would've applied for it.
Even if that meant the running usual gauntlet of bumbling/medically illiterate bureaucrats; needing to justify their existence by continually bringing into question, your level of disability. You'd think a few of the more intelligent ones would have understood a degenerative condition doesn't improve!
Luckily for me. I had had multiple major spinal surgery, and doctors who looked inside, and gave witness to the fact, it was the worst degenerative injury of its type they had personally seen.
There were things I couldn't do without creating further damage or injury, but when mum fell and needed to be picked up; that's exactly what I'd do! Individual; I plan not to answer any more of your trite tiring inquisition on this area!
If you couldn't or wouldn't, then just accept you are a much lesser/less caring or more selfish man; even if a more able bodied one! Suggest you try this very simple test.
Put a stone in your shoe then walk normally, for a mile; if you can!
And if you can manage just that much; stop repeatedly calling into question the honesty/veracity of others, but particularly the disabled, who might only have their integrity left, to boost their personal self esteem!
My personal integrity is not up for grabs, however it might improve your personal jollies?
I value skepticism for its use in good science, but not where it is used to construct a veritable witch hunt? That has now become both banal and boring, and therefore, will end here!
You'll have a nice day now, y'hear.
Rhrosty.