Hasbeen

Maybe "their natural cattiness coming out" was too rough on them at that time.

I must opine that as women (and probably men) age, from 50 on, it seems to be much more materialistic. Car, house(s) and bank balance, the sum of what one is worth. They appear to be the essential prerequisite for true "love".

Can I ask what you were into by way of "she did not want a husband who turned up dead one Sunday night"? Dangerous job? Post soccer game fights?

Planta Pete

Interesting Jardine, I never got to Indonesia, too many pirates around there for me, but I have seen women hunting, even if they did not realise it themselves.

After I gave up racing, I went sailing. I would sometimes take a few mates out for a Sunday sail on Sydney harbor. One of those mates was a real ladies man. He would always have the most attractive lady on his arm, although he did not appear to be anything special.

We would sometimes anchor just off Camp Cove for lunch, just inside the heads, a quiet little beach where many ladies as distinct from girls would go to sunbake.

With in a few minutes this mate would say, "right, let's go get some ladies". He & perhaps a few others would swim ashore, & soon have the right number of ladies swimming back out to the boat. It was amazing to me.

When I asked he showed me how he did it. You could tell by how she was sitting, what she was wearing, & where she was looking, & for how long, which were checking out every bloke on the beach. He also showed me how to tell which ones would not notice even a Greek god on the beach.

I'm not even sure if it was a conscious interest on the ladies part, but it was sure like reading a book for him. Unfortunately I still needed someone like him to handle the chat, as do many blokes.

From these trips 2 of those mates married ladies we met at Store beach. These were the sort of people who would never have known that the lady was interested, or how to brake the ice, even if they did.

I sometimes used to wonder that we had all these single blokes on the harbor, & single ladies on the beach, & how much we needed more blokes like Fred to bring us together.

What do men want in women?

Enough studies have been done to state that the first thing a man notices in a woman is their.........waist size.

When a man sees a woman (even from 500 metres), they will consciously or subconsciously look at her waist to hip ratio. The optimum waist to hip ratio is about 70%, and at that optimum ratio, it indicates a woman is usual without health problems, and not too fat or too skinny.

If the woman gets closer (within 500 metres), he will usually look for symmetry in her face and body. If the woman has a symmetrical face and body, it indicates she is unlikely to have a genetic problem.

He may talk to her to gauge her general intelligence, and at some time he may look at her breast size. If breast size is very small, it indicates possible health or hormone problems.

Just about last thing on the list a man will look at is what she is wearing, as most men have minimal interest in women’s clothes.

Ironically, most women consider clothes the most important factor., then breast size and then their face, and most women don’t even consider their waist to hip ratio.

Women dress for other women, a comparison, rivalry thing.

It is the f... me heels and red lipstick that are for the man. Not suggesting that they do not wear that little black number and reveal more for men, but the Vogue looks are to dominate other women and flaunt their success (interesting to define). No mistake that the Vogue models have that superior, almost sneering look, described dramatically (diplomatically?) as 'sultry' and 'sophisticated'.

There is no doubt whatsoever that women go for a man who has been previously checked against 'The List' and cleared by another woman. How many of us when we were single, found it easy to work the herd because of that? Women don't object to that either if you are not scummy, dependent, creepy and false - which are usually inevitable consequences of uptight western misunderstanding of roles and 'courting'.

However lets hear from the SNAGS who consider themselves 'friends' of women, and from women who deny their own biology.

‘Qualities sought by females in a mate (such as sociability, dominance, parental ability etc.) …’

‘The problem for men ... largely centres around characteristics that are easily observable (smooth skin/lips, lustrous hair, spritely gait etc.).’

Ugh! Eew! Groan! Women yearn to be dominated and men are shallow.

Where have we heard all this before? Oh, that's right! In a million stories, films, books, ads, images, songs and folktales drip-fed to us every day of our lives from Day 1.

Are we EVER going to move on from this sexist crap?

Killarney, in case you haven't noticed the sexes are not factually equal and cannot be. Are you ever going to move on from your sexist pretending women don't have babies crap?