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Anti-semitic attack proves need for racial vilification laws : Comments

By Alan Berman and John Anderson, published 14/8/2014

The recent incident on the bus in Bondi Beach in which approximately 30 children aged between five and twelve years old were terrorised with anti-Semitic taunts and physical threats is a timely reminder of the ongoing need for community vigilance.

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diver dan

No its not blown out of proportion:

After preliminary agitation by anti-Jewish people Jewish Schools and schoolchildren overseas have become terrorist targets. This is what worried NSW security people so much.

Much of the risk is the predictable times kids enter and exit schools including school buses.

For example in Toulouse, France on 19 March 2012 a man drove up to the a Jewish school on a motorcycle. He dismounted, and immediately opened fire toward the schoolyard. The first victim was a rabbi and teacher at the school who was shot outside the school gates as he tried to shield his two young sons from the gunman. The gunman shot one of the boys as he crawled away, as his father and brother lay dying on the pavement. He then walked into the schoolyard, chasing people into the building...
See the rest at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_and_Montauban_shootings#19_March:_Ozar_Hatorah_school_in_Toulouse
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 14 August 2014 5:16:22 PM
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@plantagenet It is blown out of proportion.

Some Asian kids got bullied on a bus, *crickets*.
That French woman told to speak English? *crickets*
An ABC reporter for being a different colour, *crickets*.
Some old guy beaten because he looked "abo", *crickets*.

Jewish kids gets bullied on a bus- everybody loses their minds, laws get reviewed, those schools get armed protection and the offenders would have gotten shipped to gitmo if Australia had one.

Seriously, I saw the mother on TV, if it wasn't pointed out she was Jewish, I wouldn't have known.
Posted by nowhereman, Thursday, 14 August 2014 5:25:49 PM
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Listening to the year 11 young woman from the public school the 'attackers ' were reportedly attending you would understand it was, as the police described 'opportunistic', and the action of a bunch of louts who would have harassed anyone they came across.

Her and the police words not mine.

She showed our traditional values by speaking frankly without judgement in our quiet Australian voice.

She was interviewed by media and I heard the interview on the networked New Day Australia 4BC yesterday. That young woman, listening to the interview, was not coached. She was believable. One of the boys was a former student at her school.

The mother of the young woman on the bus, who was quite hysterical, and interviewed soon after the incident was 'disconnected' and her daughter when interviewed some time later sounded coached.

Why would the mother need the bus drivers name and why would she need to take his rego number? Why did she imply he was culpable because he left the scene? The employer would have those details. Why did the daughter focus on the bus driver? That focus was the mothers and irrelevant to the daughter given the events?

I heard all three interviews. The mother and the daughter interviews repeatedly by the media. The year 11 young woman I heard on the very early am radio only once.

I surmised and formed a reasonable opinion the incident may have been over egged and we will probably see as much once the courts adjudicate. The oldest boy was over 18.

I'll make up my mind once our liberal democratic court processes run their course. They seek truth, ignore the propagandists as well as the fear and the hate merchants. That is our tradition. The courts don't rely on media reports for their judgement, nor do I and nor should any of you.


We should be contemptuous of people like the authors here who have made up their minds before our courts judge.

It is the tradition in non democratic and illiberal societies to rely on hysterics, hearsay and propaganda to sway people.
Posted by imajulianutter, Thursday, 14 August 2014 6:04:44 PM
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Loudmouth - "You know this for sure, do you ? "

Of course not it is imply an opinion. Do you know for sure that it does not happen?
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 14 August 2014 6:14:59 PM
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Arjay

Do you think Jews should get special Jew only buses in Australia?
Posted by imajulianutter, Thursday, 14 August 2014 6:54:44 PM
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Age of the alleged abusers is something I'm still uncertain of "Five youths, aged between 15 and 17, were arrested in Rose Bay in the early hours of Thursday morning but were too drunk to be interviewed at the time, superintendent Jason Box, the Eastern Suburbs local area commander, said." http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fnsw%2Fracist-abuse-of-jewish-children-on-school-bus-an-isolated-and-random-attack-say-police-20140807-101gei.html&ei=_33sU-faKYv_oQSqo4DQBw&usg=AFQjCNF3FI-SnACuYWfOHdgGsFoHvai6vw&sig2=1vJlFSyxxLU0N3Rd_lFwFQ&bvm=bv.73231344,d.cGU

If they were 15 to 17 just how would the authors see the racial vilification laws being applied above and beyond other laws that may have already been broken?

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 14 August 2014 7:17:06 PM
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