Carla Wilshire I think it would be more sensible to take migration to the UN instead of bothering the G20 with a problem that is entirely of the UN's making.

Lets examine how a reasonable and well sourced article which discusses global migration is treated by the depopulationists such as Shocka, et al.

"Fail, bogus, I don't care, pfft!"

That's the sum of their intellectual contribution. No counter sources, no verifiable statistics, no use of logic, just 'pfft!' Normally Divergence would have inserted her usual instrumentalist paragraph from the 2006 PC report that migrants are not worth as much as dinky di, true blue Aussies ... Oi!... Oi!... Oi! Must be on holiday.

In fact, I can't remember them writing an article on OLO in the last three years. Michael Lardelli used to but he went off in a huff. Pity, as he was the only one with two neurons to rub together. What we're seeing is a new form of racism coming out of the sociobiology paradigm as per below - ably assisted by Roy Beck and John Tanton in the States.

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16485

The SPA/SPP (same thing) are just Stormfront in a sweater.

Malcolm 'Paddy' King

Regards the propaganda myth that immigration produces a huge economic gain for Australia: -

“The overall economic effect of migration appears to be positive but small,consistent with previous Australian and overseas studies.”

Regards the propaganda myth that immigration decreases the average age of the population: -

“Net overseas migration is contributing about half of Australia’s population growth and is marginally raising the proportion of ‘younger-aged’ working people in the population, with little impact on the ageing of the entire population.”

Regards the propaganda myth that immigrants are highly skilled: -

Nearly 60% of immigrants have no post school education at all.

Regards the propaganda myth that immigrants bring diversity and enhance our culture: -

“migrants are not very different in relevant respects from the Australian-born population and, over time, the differences become smaller.”

The above comes from the “Economic Impacts of Migration and Population Growth” by the Productivity Commission

http://www.pc.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/9438/migrationandpopulation.pdf

That report was developed in 2006.

But since then a number of things have changed, including: -

- A growing federal deficit,
- Shrinking tax revenue,
- Increased unemployment particularly for youth,
- A massive debt problem in the US and in China,
- An increased awareness of the environmental effects of our overpopulation and further population growth,
- An awareness of the loss of culture and national identity in Australia.

All adding to the negative that is immigration

Malcolm 'Paddy' King,
We all know it goes against you grain but you won't be able to brush aside reality for that much longer. May I suggest you spend some time in the european cities now saturated with non-productive, non-contributing so-called migrants ? Is this what you wish for Australia to become too ? Not very patriotic in my book & it almost smells of some perverse satisfaction of self inflicted harm. Don't you have children or don't you care what life they'll have if your proposals were to be heeded ?
I really think it high time for some of you idealists to sit back, watch & think.

Just try getting any attention in casualty at Logan hospital, note the appearance of those filling the waiting room, then suggest migration is good for the existing population.

This is the case anywhere there is much public housing. It is totally swamped with our new "citizens".

To obtain zero net migration, the Australian Government would need to:

1. Set the skilled permanent entry to zero because the loss of Australian citizens is very small. No movement would be permitted onshore to a permanent skilled visa.

2. Stop the 457 visa or limit the stay to under 12 months in which case the visa holder would not be counted into the population. 457 visa holders include a lot of people who operate in an international labour market. This would be like imposing a trade sanction on one’s own country.

3. An international student would be permitted to enter Australia only when another international student had left. Present policy is to encourage international students because this improves the economies of scale in Australian educational institutions and promotes diversity of course offerings in universities. A restrictive policy would see the closure of many Australian universities.

4. End the Trans-Tasman Travel agreement between Australia and New Zealand or modify it so that a New Zealander could come to Australia only when an Australian went to New Zealand.

5. Change the Migration Act to make it illegal for Australians to bring their non-Australian spouses to Australia, or to allow this only when someone leaves Australia. This would mean that Australian citizens would need to be warned not to marry a non-resident of Australia or be prepared to live outside Australia if they do so. Humanitarian immigrants would not be permitted to obtain their spouses from their country of origin. They would have to join the boat movement.

6. No parents or dependent children of Australian residents would be permitted to enter.

Barking mad.