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Why Australia should be talking migration at the G20 : Comments

By Carla Wilshire, published 1/8/2014

People movement has now become one of the most powerful tools for development and a significant player in global growth. Fueling this age of migration is the reciprocal benefit for both sending and receiving countries.

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From the lead front page article (by Nick McKenzie and Richard Baker) of today's Sydney Morning Herald, reporting on a cache of leaked Immigration Dept. documents:

"...national security is being compromised by wide-scale visa rorting and migration rackets operating with impunity, including some with links to terrorism or organized crime."

"Secret departmental operations have estimated that as many as nine in 10 skilled migrant visas may be fraudulent, while an internal inquiry into Afghan visa applicants in 2012 assessed that more than 90 percent of cases contained 'fraud of some type' and raised 'people smuggling, identity fraud, suspected child trafficking and national security implications'.

"Also, a 2010 report reveals that immigration investigators had uncovered a Somali people-smuggling cell in Melbourne linked to suspected terrorist Hussein Hashi Farah...

"Another file details a migration crime network involving a facilitator with suspected Pakistan terrorist links along with 'migration agents, employers and education providers who are linked to a significant level of organized fraud and crime'...

"Tens of thousands of immigration fraudsters [are] living freely after being assisted by migration crime networks exploiting weaknesses in working, student, family and humanitarian visa programs, including loopholes that have left the department 'sometimes generating the fraud'.

"The department is 'responsible for granting a record number of student visas to people who may not be considered genuine students as well as granting permanent residence to skilled migration applicants who do not have the appropriate skills being claimed'."

Of course, if the employers really wanted most of the skilled migrants for their skills and not to flood the labour market to ensure a cheap, compliant work force, they would have long since been screaming to high heaven about the fraud.
Posted by Divergence, Thursday, 7 August 2014 10:58:57 AM
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What a coincidence, Dr. Bob Birrell is on a propaganda campaign in Australian mainstream media today:

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/lax-immigration-policy-hurting-australian-job-seekers-20140807-1019tr.html

Familiar tactic, quote headline statistics, then draw any conclusion you want..... sloppy methodology, it's not science, merely a 'thin academic veneer' to demonise 'immigrants' (SPLC).

Other news outlets follow suit:

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/call-for-migration-rort-crackdown-as-data-reveals-foreign-workers-snare-net-job-growth-20140807-3d9ma.html

'Migrants take 95% of jobs!' http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2014/08/morrison-should-abandon-457-loosening/

(MB, self declared as of the left politically, has become particuularly virulent about 'Chinese', 'population growth', 'immigration' etc., especially commenters and now most related is hidden behind a paywall, especially when 'StormFront' posts were turning up.... they should stick to business).

However, Birrell being one John Tanton's main cogs locally and internationally (through his contributions to The Social Contract Press TSCP) plays an important role in Australia nativist matters as the mainstream media 'go to' or 'rent a quote' expert on all things 'immigration' and 'population'.

This means Birrell's and Tanton's TSCP 'research' can be fed to Australian media then transmitted onto mainstream Australia as 'fact', when in fact it's merely matching the 'white Australia' WASPish racial and/or neo colonial attitudes that still lurk below the surface (after all journalist do have critical analysis skills?)

The 'role of honour' in Australian for media and politicians who regurgitate Tanton's philosophy (via Birrell) uncritically (or are happy to 'dog whistle') include: SPP/SPA, Bob Carr, Kelvin Thomson, Fairfax (especially Tim Colebatch), MacroBusiness (Leith van Onselen), News Corp (Bolt, Masanauskas, HigherEd etc.), ABC (Jon Faine, Robyn Williams, 7.30 report etc.) and of 'Current Affairs' tv, and Alan Jones.

This strategy is nothing new, during the 18th and 19th centuries in Germany the churches, media and anti semites transformed perceptions regarding the presence of Jewish communities in the empire as a 'Jewish problem' (even if secular), creating widespread antisemitism so that the Nazis did not need to persuade anybody to collaborate, inform, commit atrocities, or turn a blind eye...... when 'solutions' were implemented.

What is the difference now? There isn't any, keep repeating the plausible facts/lies and people will take it for granted that it is true, it's called classic conditioning, as used by religions and cults....
Posted by Andras Smith, Thursday, 7 August 2014 10:18:48 PM
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Andras Smith

The same situation has occurred in the US.

“Government data show that since 2000 all of the net gain in the number of working-age (16 to 65) people holding a job has gone to immigrants (legal and illegal).

The total number of working-age (16 to 65) immigrants (legal and illegal) holding a job increased 5.7 million from the first quarter of 2000 to the first quarter of 2014, while declining 127,000 for natives.”

http://c7.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/CIS%20Report%20On%20Employment%20Gains%20And%20Losses.pdf

So there appears to be no shortage of jobs in the US, and probably never has been.

Just an oversupply of immigrants taking the jobs.

Seems a weird way of running a country.

In the case of our country, I have no confidence that our governments have a clue of what they are doing.
Posted by Incomuicardo, Thursday, 7 August 2014 11:47:30 PM
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Andras Smith "that still lurk below the surface"

A self-interested bias favouring one's kin or folk "lurks beneath the surface" of all people, except posturing utopian propagandists.

It lurks beneath Tibetans.
It lurks beneath Palestinians.
It lurks beneath African Americans.

But that's okay.
They're not White.

The anti-racists/multiculturalists try to *invert* their natural bias, turning its archetypal psychic force psychotic, hysterical.
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 8 August 2014 11:28:55 AM
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My, my -- Andras' list of villains is getting longer and longer. He might be better advised to try to prove why Bob Birrell is wrong -- lying, according to Andras -- rather than just smearing him.

In any case, the main game is the enormous scandal that has erupted concerning the Immigration Department, which has nothing to do with Bob Birrell, except as a source of comment. A whistleblower leaked many confidential documents on immigration fraud and corruption to the Sydney Morning Herald.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/terror-touches-down-visa-fraud-migration-crime-rampant-immigration-department-files-reveal-20140806-3d8wj.html

Here is a link to some of the original documents

http://www.theage.com.au/national/brokenborders?rand=1407336867393

Enjoy, Andras
Posted by Divergence, Friday, 8 August 2014 11:44:42 AM
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Divergence

It seems to be similar to free trade.

It reaches a point where more free trade has minimal benefit, and in fact it can cost so much to police free trade that it wipes out any benefits entirely.

For example, trying to stop the dumping of goods into another country becomes impossible to police.

Immigration is another, where too much immigration has minimal benefit, and trying to police immigration becomes impossible.

We have reached that point.
Posted by Incomuicardo, Friday, 8 August 2014 4:00:56 PM
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