Arjay said;
they all came down at near free fall speeds which is impossible for aircraft fuelled fires to achieve. It defies the laws of physics

Please explain, how does falling at free fall speed defy the laws of physics ?
Surely that is the law of physics !

On the counter-terrorism legislation front a small win for checks and balances.

My article a fortnight ago said http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16460 :

"The proposed amendments also draw on recommendations in the latest Annual Report of the outgoing Independent National Security Legislation Monitor (INSLM), Bret Walker... Checks and balances are important particularly over major changes to counter-terrorism laws, but it appears one check is to be abolished. While these major counter-terrorism legislative amendments are to be proposed the Federal Government is recommending that to save money and reduce duplication the position of INSLM should be terminated (see this Brisbane Times article).Bret Walker as the current monitor said on page 3 of the 2014 INSLM Annual Report: "The INSLM is not aware of any other officer, agency or "level" of government doing what Parliament required to be done by the INSLM Act enacted in 2010.''"

The AG's Media Release - National Security Legislation Amendment Bill (No. 1) 2014 - 16 July 2014 today says http://www.attorneygeneral.gov.au/Mediareleases/Pages/2014/ThirdQuarter/16July2014-NationalSecurityLegislationAmendmentBillNo12014.aspx

"The Government is committed to maintaining and, where necessary, strengthening our strong legal and oversight framework. Given these measures, and potential further changes stemming from the Government's comprehensive review of Australia's national security legislation, [THE KEY BIT FOLLOWS] the Government has decided to retain the position of the Independent National Security Legislation Monitor. The Government is also considering providing additional resources to the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security."

Yay!

There has been complaints on privacy and objection to tracking etc
on human rights grounds.
I wonder if those objecting would appreciate being asked about the rights of the dead ?

Ask the relatives of those that died in Bali.

The objections are not valid anyway because the enormous size of the
databases that would be involved means they would be searched not by
hand but by computer program by email address, name or telephone
number if suspicion had already fallen on an individual.

Searches of the whole database would also be made looking for
phrases, words etc that would indicate a particular activity.
So don't mention bombs etc etc or someone may read your email.
Someone may read this email, hi ! Hello there !

Anyway this is the penalty we pay for bringing in that group of migrants.

Hi Bazz

This speech, made on 16-7-2014 in Parliament, covers most of the issues you mention http://www.attorneygeneral.gov.au/Mediareleases/Documents/second-reading-speech-national-security-legislation-amendment-bill-2014-16july2014.pdf .

Certainly people coming into Australia raise issues. Overall compromises need to be made (eg. no total privacy) within a system that has checks and balances.

Regards

Pete