<<Israel could be Jordan's lifeline in preventing this happening.>>

Israel SHOULD be Jordan's lifeline in preventing this happening.

Israel should help the good people of Jordan and their kind king Abdullah, may his majesty live forever.
Good neighbours help each other in times of need - and it should have absolutely nothing to do with this cursed territory of the West Bank.

...Is "who cares" too strong a word?

Dear Diver Dan,

<<...Is "who cares" too strong a word?>>

Yes.

Reading about what happens to those who fall in the hands of ISIS should send shudders down our spines. Men have their hands cut for not attending the mosque 5 times a day and women not allowed to leave their homes without a man taking them out, then too only wearing a full burqa. Anyone not agreeing with their version of Islam being executed.

If it doesn't stop in Jordan, you and I are next in line.

‘morning David,

I think the issues in the ME are much broader than Jordan. The “coalition of the willing” in general and the disengagement by the USA in particular has changed the geopolitics forever.

Many of the ME Countries that identify as being part of the “Arab Nation” ( Collectively 660 times the size of Israel) also have much to fear from Jihadists.

The Arab countries have a rich tradition of changing allegiances in an instant, they are the worlds great opportunists, which makes them all dangerous.

We may well see these allegiances change rapidly because the threats to them are changing rapidly. Israel remains the only reliable and consistent force capable of delivering military capability. They are likely to “seek” support from “moderate” Arab countries in order to take whatever action they deem to be necessary for self preservation.

Israel has been attacked by Arab nations twice previously, 1945 and 1966. On both instances the back doors of Gaza and the West Bank were opened by the Arabs. Israel this time, may well take pre-emptive action to secure the Golan Heights, Gaza, West Bank and the border with Lebanon, unless they acquire some friendly neighbors?

yu/i have rarely seen you this 'involved'
but mate/please\THINK..ISRAEL/USA/TRAINED/SUPPLIED ISIS
to sic/on to iraq.so israel can take over jordEn/and the CURDS

YOU REQUOTE/..<<..<<Israel could be
Jordan's lifeline in preventing this happening.>>

if it wasnt the cause

your saying..<<..Israel SHOULD be Jordan's lifeline in preventing this happening...>>..seems merely the response they sought?

everything from goe/to woe/usa/isael/maDE..it so

<<,..Israel should help the good people of Jordan
and their kind king Abdullah, may his majesty live forever.
Good neighbours help each other in times of need - and it should have absolutely nothing to do with this cursed territory of the West Bank...>>

of course/but isreal is a nest of vipers
claiming one hand..god..the other secular state-hood
one cannot seve two masters/the state..is not god..secular=godless

its insane/why the godless want gods land/but that demons and angels be true/and satanists want that power nexus..thats the real issue/israel=satan;demonic]secularists/by fruits/works..will you know/they destroy homes/not buildthem for natives/let them have their god/you just want their land/position/position/position/secular-prostitution

I do wonder if Israeli help to Jordan might involve shifting their (Israel's) army up out of the valley and onto the heights around Amman. That way neither the US nor Israel would lose the foreign fields necessary to train "moderate" jihadists.
Do they really think we cannot see cause and effect?
And the House of Saud - how tempting are they!?

Who cares, is a reasonable response.
I think we might well be seeing a battle for power between the most
fanatical and the more fanatical. Hopefully the resolution of this
1400 year old struggle will leave the Arabs so weakened that they will
no longer be a threat to "The West".
However whoever wins, or worse neither side wins, if they are not
significantly weakened "we" are next in line.

They have warned us, it is no secret they intend to invade and force
us to be moslems or die. They have warned that they will use a mixture
of military and womb means.

We have been at war with the Arabs since before the Crusades and only
temporary truces have been implemented.

OUG,

Where on earth do you get this notion that Israel has been training ISIS thugs ? Do you understand anything at all about the Middle East ? If you had wanted to make some off-the-top-of-the-head comment about links between the Israelis and Assad in Syria, that would be more believable. Your anti-Semitism-at-any-price is showing, OUG.

Yes, if I were in Jordan, I would be very concerned about ISIS, and I'm sure that back-channels are strengthening links between Jordan and Israel full-pelt.

ISIS has captured four thousand Humvees (4,000!) - they can move tens of thousands of troops around the entire Middle east with that sort of transport, from the frontiers of Kurdistan across to Jordan and as far south as Basra and Kuwait, from one battle-front to another. We should be very concerned: this is an army, not a rag-tag bunch.

Joe

OHH JOE/YOUR AS ONE EYED AS ANYONE
you think..secularists/claiming a right to gods land/is\pefectly kosha/correct?

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2014/06/isis-insurrection-serves-israels-interests/ n the June 22 edition of NBC’s Meet the Press, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu let slip his government’s intention to divide and conquer the Middle East.Remarking on the latest ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) incursions into Iraq, Netanyahu expressed the desire of his regime to promote internal strife in Israel’s neighbouring states. “We must weaken both [Sunni and Shia Muslims],” Netanyahu said, implying that it is in Israel’s interests to have Muslims fighting and squabbling amongst themselves.“When your enemies are fighting each other, don’t strengthen either one of them, weaken both,” said the arrogant Zionist leader.That is what ISIS was created to do. The terrorist militia’s American, Israeli and Saudi backers are content to see these roving bands of malcontents and marauders behead their way to Damascus and Baghdad. What better way to solidify Israel’s position as the sole hegemon in the region?Fragmenting, weakening and balkanizing the Middle East has been part and parcel of the Zionist impulse from the very beginnings of the Jewish state.Israeli strategist Oded Yinon candidly outlined this imperialist line of thought in his 1982 paper “A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s.” A strong, unified Iraq is Israel’s primary military concern, Yinon stressed. He went on to advocate the territorial dissection of Iraq into three statelets along ethnic and confessional lines. He promoted much the same scenario for Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Iran and other Arab/Muslim states surrounding Israel.

OUG,

Netanyahu is certainly not the only one to believe that letting the Sunnis and Shi'ites go at each other provides a breathing-space for the rest of the world. Once they have fought each other to something like a horrific stand-still, perhaps, instead of war, we'll see some steps towards unity of both, or at least collaboration, to ideologically join with the rest of the world. But I'm not optimistic, since after all, their differences are not doctrinal in terms of the Koran (or maybe I'm wrong there ?)

Sooner or later, the Islamic world will have to move on to have its own Enlightenment, although not while Islam has any influence. I hope to Christ it doesn't take another thousand years, before they come to see the value of equality of men and women, the rule of (secular) law and democratic succession and participation.

Joe

There are 5 million muslims in France and millions more throughout Europe. The U.S. is heavily indebited and suffering from political paralysis. Much of this debt is due to America fighting Israeli wars. But that is now irrelevant; it is in steep decline and losing authority and relevance quickly.

I reckon Jewish Israel has about another 50 years max. In future centuries, people will look back and think it extraordinary that a people who hadn't had a home since the fall the of second temple managed to convince the world that god somehow invited them back. It will be an intriguing blip.

Dear Bazz,

<<I think we might well be seeing a battle for power between the most fanatical and the more fanatical.>>

We are seeing it already, but in between are many ordinary people that are not fanatical at all, just like you and me, who suffer greatly. This includes the vast majority of Jordanians. Anyone with a heart would care for them.

To assert a caliphate at the beginning of Ramadan, with 45-48 degree heat in Iraq, when Muslims are concentrating their minds on what it means to be Muslim, when they can't drink or swallow or spit, and are now required to make up their minds about a caliphate in the midst of horrific war, is an interesting gamble.

Joe

The Arabs invaded the Palestinian area back right at the start of Islam.
They assert right of occupancy because of conquest, but those they
defeated are reasserting their right to occupancy since they did so by defeating the Arabs.

If the Arabs have a claim to the area surely the Jews have the right
to claim the area for the same reason plus priority.

So to sum up, both claim the area by conquest, but the Jews were there
before the Arabs.

yes/joe.<<.To assert a caliphate at the beginning of Ramadan,>

yeah/it dont/smell-right?
plus julY-4/TOMORRA/obsuration
/plus so many zionist hands-on/line
plus..it feels a demonic thing/this mob of secular demons love to do

http://rarebible.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/rape-circumcision-and-mass-murder/
we will give you our daughters/and take your daughters for ourselves.\We’ll settle among you/and become one people with you.

But/if you will not\agree .[to be circumcised,][WEAKEND]/BETRAYAL-SIGN]..we’ll take our sister and go.”/18/Their proposal seemed good to Hamor and his son Shechem.\19/The young man, who was the most honored of all his father’s household, lost no time\in doing what they said,/because he was delighted]......with Jacob’s daughter.

20 So Hamor and his son Shechem went to the gate of their city to speak to their fellow townsmen. 21 “These men are friendly toward us,” they said. “Let them live in our land and trade in it; the land has plenty of room for them. We can marry their daughters and they can marry ours. 22 But the men will consent to live with us as one people only on the condition that our males be circumcised, as they themselves are.

23 Won’t their livestock, their property and all their other animals become ours? So let us give our consent to them, and they will settle among us.” 24 All the men who went out of the city gate agreed with Hamor and his son Shechem, and every male in the city was circumcised.

25 Three days later, while all of them were still in pain, two of Jacob’s sons, Simeon and Levi, Dinah’s brothers, took their swords and attacked the unsuspecting city, killing every male. 26 They put Hamor and his son Shechem to the sword and took Dinah from Shechem’s house and left.

*EDITED*

They carried off all their wealth and all their women and children, taking as plunder everything in the houses. 30 Then Jacob said to Simeon and Levi, “You have brought trouble on me by making me a stench to the Canaanites and Perizzites, the people living in this land..GOD/KICKED\THEMOUT-OF/BUT/ELITE BRITISH/CPLONSERS SOMEHOPW CLAIM/BY secular right/imperial edict.scum/floats/by their works/revealed\reviled.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/podcasts/hourtitle1.m3u
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/podcast.php

A bit deranged, OUG :) This is 2014 AD, not BC. Please join us.

Joe

joe/quote/<<""/A bit deranged, OUG :) This is 2014 AD,
not BC. Please join us.>>

as your siding with israel/at least get te tmming right
before christ/measures nothing/times calanders/change/im for living on jew time[matriarcgal jew time]

ie they say this is the year/5774*

<<.http://www.hebcal.com/converter/

* Thu, 3 July 2014 = 5th of Tamuz, 5774* &#1492;&#1523; &#1489;&#1468;&#1456;&#1514;&#1468;&#1464;&#1502;&#1493;&#1468;&#1494; &#1514;&#1513;&#1506;&#1524;&#1491;

* Parashat Balak (in Diaspora)Hebrew Date ConverterAfter sunsetGregorian to HebrewHebrew to Gregorian

now do the math/time\is measured by moon times
so moon time for today= 12/times\5774*/plus 3 months=69,291

12 times 5774=69,288+3=69,291..ST/MONTH/ 69,291//MONTHS/SINCE TIME BEGUN*..lots of fun..hOW MANY DAZE..if we set off to the nearest star/it would take 2000 plus years[at speed of light]/yet..how old the light?

yanki arms
http://investmentwatchblog.com/isis-is-taking-over-iraq-using-captured-american-weapons/
[who is the larget reciever of yanki-arms?
THE ukrane genocide goes on
http://rinf.com/alt-news/featured/u-s-elite-run-ukrainian-genocide-american-public-ignorant/

COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/Palestinian%20teen%20murdered%20in%20suspected%20%E2%80%98revenge%20kidnapping%E2%80%99

THE GL0BAL PROTECTION CABAL
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Noam_Chomsky%3A_America%E2%80%99s_Real_Foreign_Policy_%E2%80%93__A_Corporate_Protection_Racket/36364/0/38/38/Y/M.html

ALL DEATHS ARE NOT EQUAL
http://xrepublic.tv/node/9714

UKRANE COUP PHOt0S/THEY WOULD RATHER YOU DONT SEE
http://matveychev-oleg.livejournal.com/1224806.html

end-GAME
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2677613/American-military-advisers-masterminding-Ukraines-surge-against-pro-Russian-separatists-bid-expand-Nato-east.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

HISTER*[Y]/REPEATShitlers zionists
http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righitpix.html

All a conflict of three great religions, Islam, Judaism and Christianity, as usual. All claim righteousness and that their lot were in Palestine-Israel first or have property rights to it.

It may well be that black nomads from the Horn of Africa (who then had many gods) were the FIRST occupants of the Palestine-Israel area. That may have been around 70,000 years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_African_origin_of_modern_humans#Movement_out_of_Africa .

Who remembers them?

Pete

SURMISING/THE TRUTH/WITHOUT/MEDIA
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_03/US-considers-Ukrainian-military-operations-in-the-east-of-the-country-to-be-adequate-3178/

What was the Israeli connection to the 3 settler kidnappings?
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/israeli-connection-3-settler-kidnappings/

Evidence that came to light after Israel removed its gag order on information regarding the June 12 kidnapping and murder of three Jewish Israeli students indicates that it was an Israeli government operation that was intentionally used to punish Hamas and break up the new Palestinian unity government.

gaza=burning/media black-out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ3UZxWAcfw

http://rinf.com/alt-news/usa-news/america-hates-despises-victims/

ignore/the pain/u ain seen nuthin/yet
http://www.thelonestarwatchdog.com/2014/07/03/private-central-bankers-root-evil-around-world/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/economic-realities-those-euromyths-in-full/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-great-deformation-of-central-banking-debt-burdens-have-never-been-higher-500-years-of-dutch-interest-rates-have-never-been-lower/

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance

Is Christine Lagarde The Most Dangerous Woman In The World?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/expropriation-back-christine-lagarde-most-dangerous-woman-world

I have gone on record that the most dangerous organization is the now French led IMF with Christine Lagarde at the helm, which has presented a concept report that debt cuts for over-indebted states are uncompromising and are to be performed more effectively in the future by defaulting on retirement accounts held in life insurance, mutual funds and other types of pension schemes, or arbitrarily extending debt perpetually so you cannot redeem.

Yes you read correctly, The new IMF paper is described in great detail exactly how to now allow the private sector, which has invested in government bonds, to be expropriated to pay for the national debts of the socialist governments.

http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739:Topic:1480624
how/GIVE A DOG/A BAD/name\plead/victimhood
http://rinf.com/alt-news/war-terrorism/iraq-syria-u-s-backing-sides-conflict/
S
http://nwo-patriot-link-news.blogspot.com/2014/07/google-is-being-forced-to-censor.html

http://www.newsforage.com/2014/07/goldman-sachs-asks-judge-to-force.html
Expropriation Is Back -
http://rt.com/usa/170172-nypd-arrest-subway-sleeping/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/virginia-high-schooler-threatens-suicide-police-arrive-and-kill-him/

A citizen of Australia
should have loyalty to the country they belong to.
The Australian government, in my opinion, is quite right in it's distrust of those
who abandon that alliance to rush off and fight
with other armies or militia or terror groups some of which groups,
have sworn to kill the "infidel". That means they intend to kill
Australians in the name of their God, but really as an exercise in
territorial control of countries.

That's the same as someone in World War Two rushing off to fight
with the Nazis and SS and then coming back and saying, I have now
come back to the Jewish community and am now a Jew. Could they be
trusted? I think the Jews belief in their loyalty would be in
tatters.