Oh the problems of insurgencies.

Advancing ISIS rebels, in civilian one-toners and civilian dress unfortunately don't provide a target rich environment.

High explosive cruise missiles are best for conventional military strongpoints but for ISIS cruise missile delivered cluster bombs might be most appropriate.

Drones with Hellfires (Reapers, Predators) provide hope but this may constitute insufficient bombing volume for satisfactory results.

Airstrikes from the carrier USS Bush provide good video footage but suffer inaccuracies in differentiating between ISIS and innocents.

This is the main lesson we should be taking from the ISIS crisis.

"An estimated 150 Australians have left their homes down under to take up arms with extremist groups in the Middle East"
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/150-australians-hundreds-western-fighters-middle-east-official/story?id=24215115

(and little doubt a much larger number are aiding and abetting from inside Oz)

It's something we all need to keep in mind next time any apologist tells us about poor people fleeing to Oz due to their love of liberal democratic values.

"Vanity of vanities, all is vanity, and there is nothing new under the sun."
Isaiah

There is no reason why the state of Iraq should be preserved. It was carved out of the old Ottoman empire after WWI by the British to suit their interests at the time. It has been an instrument of oppression ever since. There is no reason its borders or authority should be considered sacrosanct. The meddling western allies including Australia have over the last 24 years killed countless innocent and guilty Iraqis, as well as their own troops, to achieve nothing at great expense. If people don't want to be members of an American puppet state why should they be forced? Why should more blood and treasure be wasted on this stupid exercise, other than to serve power for power's sake?

People notice ISIS's violence: the ISIS shooting of Iraqi police and armed forces. But imagine if ISIS had instead peaceably said to the government of Iraq "We don't want to be members of your state, and we request you exempt us from being forced to pay for it or forced to obey". Would Iraq have said "Oh sure, that's fine. You're at no risk of violence or intimidation from us."?

Of course not! What do you think the job of those armed forces *is*? ISIS would have had NO CHANCE of achieving such a result except by opposing force to the state commensurate with the enormous institutionalised violence being used to impose it.

And how it is any less terrorism for the western countries to forcibly impose their opinions on gender politics by bombing people, is any less terrorism than when ISIS or Boko Haram do it is beyond me.

No, let the Muslim world settle the differences between Sunni and Shia BEFORE any more western intervention, and those who tried to bomb them into democracy should be prosecuted for war crimes, starting with all the heads of government who participated.

SO,, you who think war is a god idea
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/soyouwantawar.php

GOVT HIT LIST
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SMALL_shitlist.jpg

Thanks SPQR

For the link http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/150-australians-hundreds-western-fighters-middle-east-official/story?id=24215115

Its primarily up to the men returning to Australia from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan who should realise Australians want to remain living in peace. No-one would want Australia to turn into a war-zone like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Jardine K. Jardine

Its not all the West's fault.

Partitioning or winding the clock back is usually no solution. Most Middle Eastern countries (Lebanon, Syria...) could be partitioned not only on Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish lines (as may be happening in Iraq) but into about 16 smaller sub-groups.

Each of these resulting micro-states could be swallowed up by the larger states - Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel etc of the region. This is undesirable.

Un-elected extremist groups like ISIS are probably unpopular overall even in Sunni areas. People in those areas would just be too scared to speak out. Extreme Shiite militia being the same problem.

No easy solutions.

we are shocked to learn the recent chaos in iraq now it is the duty of muslims nations to come forward and find a lasting solutions to countries affected by violence destabilizing and civil wars.

My question to OIC the islamic organisation ? why they keep silent when our own brothers are fighting each other they should visit and hold discussion with both the government and opposition to end this kind of violence which benefits others.

there is no religious leader of muslim nations we are without leader who can tackle and deal with such chaos.

i know and understand that more anger and vengeance has no place in islam what we gain with this kind of violence and it is not allowed to kill our own muslims brothers for worldly desires.

a group of muslims clerics from different islamic countries should visit the affected countries and start dialogue before the scale of violence would take more deaths and destructions.

itz our matter of ummah we do not need other nations to interfere we can tackle and solve the problems by our own means and wisdoms.

so i appeal to the reknowned muslims scholars, poiticians, intellectuals to start thinking to draw a plan and visit to the countires to bring the governments and warring public to come to negotiations table in order to find out solutions and resolve the problems peacefully and if these intellectuals and scholars disinterest or show no anxiety about the current situation then there will too late that muslims will fight like animals kills each other for nothing

sayeed