We are discussing science; one under god, not a political viewpoint. I was responding to a particular point that JBowyer had queried.

It is not possible to give any reasonable response to what I wrote, and so it becomes an ad hominem attack. No problems, it is virtually a home goal you have provided. It gets difficult to maintain a stance when there is objective evidence to show you are wrong. Where are your facts, one under god?
You might like to pull apart the recently published NCA document while you are at it; it is supported by 3,000 references and discusses empirical evidence.
Please indicate how warmth is not a factor in thermokarst failure in Alaska?
Why has there been a necessity for some Alaskan Inuit communities to be moved?
You might like to discuss why Inuit culture has been disrupted in Alaska, Northern Canada and Greenland. Why has hunting/travel become dangerous for the Inuit.
one in god, you might like to discuss why water has been found to be contaminated in Northern Canada.
You might like to write to Professor Lesack who has found very significant increases in temperature over the last 70 years on the McKenzie River( try 5.3 degrees c increase in winter, 3.2 C increase in Spring).
Please inform Lawrence Krauss, a physicist, that he is wrong about CO2 having an impact on climate change. He is not a climate scientist; though being a physicist, he would have knowledge about how CO2 behaves..
Fish are being caught off Greenland that have migrated North through warming waters.
You might like to discuss how methane is being released in Polar regions. What is the cause of that release, one in god?
What comments do you have about tropical/semi tropical diseases moving North and South into what were cooler climes.
The US military is taking climate change into account and forming strategies to deal with the outcomes.

keep throwing the mud on the wal ant nut
YOU OUGHTA KNOW WE ARE SUING YOU LIARS//

its best you double check ya faCTS
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/

35 INCONVIENIENT TRUTh lies FROM MT ALL GORE
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html

STOP LOOKING AT YA NAVEL..SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE
EVERYTHING THEY TOLd us is a lie
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html

YOUR LITTLE ANTINE MIND..just needs evolve..a little further
once you see from a higher point of vieuw..

nuthin beats seeiNG THE TRUTH AS IT IS
NOT SHADED WITH ROSE COLOURED CLASS NOR green tint.[hint..hint[nor blue nor red..nor raibow neither the vtrufh hurts/there is no other

all truth hurts
but they are mere growing pains..we learn of as we grow up.[we all begin on nthe left/but mostly end up far right..as we see being lorded overe by ignorants/dreaming up fearfilled delusion creates ALL THE CONFUSION.

BE CONFUSED NO LONGER..EAT MEAT[TRUTH]
GET STRONGER]
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/fallacies.html
OR GO THE FULL CURE
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/mclean/agwfallacies.pdf

MAY fear/free..NORMALITY RESUME 4U SHORTLY..

Ant my point was that firefighters will say support anything that increases their numbers, increases their income and gives them less work to do. All of them, from here to Alaska. OUG is also right the greenies stopped the sensible burning off and now fires go right off.
I am sick of it! It was a hole in the ozone layer (We paid) then Global Warming (We paid) now it is climate change. Let you dunderheads pay up and stop picking my pocket.
Everyone knows you have to say we are under great threat so you have to pay and shut up. I will call stupidity on this issue and I want the bill to be put on the people who believe it.

one under god, you know better than every major scientific body around the planet? I'm really interested to learn how permafrost areas burn if warming hasn't happened, can you explain that? How would you prove that isn't happening in a Court situation?
The references you provided are just blog spots; not much status I'm afraid, compared to the Royal Society paper published much earlier this year or the huge NCA paper published last month with over 3,000 references.
The epidemiological matters I have raised have not emanated from climate scientists, one under god.
What I mentioned about thermokarst failure has been mentioned in newspapers as well as in scientific papers. It is a matter caused by permafrost melting and land becoming unstable, a feature of climate change.
one under god, last week I was reading about how Insurance companies in the US were discussing how to take climate change into account.
A day or so ago the matter was raised here in Australia as well. Do you plan to take Insurance Companies to Court as well?

JBowyer, when the bushfires struck Victoria a few years ago the approach to land clearing did anger me. I think that the view of getting rid of forest litter is seen to be more important now.
But, firefighters are very professional in what they do. So when they say the nature of bushfires is changing due to climate change it behoves us to take them seriously.
I cannot believe that you are implying that the impact of CFCs was just a conspiracy.

A clue, one in god, any group that calls itself an "Institute" is generally a front for a political group. The IPA is a good example of an "Institute" pushing extreme views. They tend to attract people with similar views, which then helps the socialisation of particular views leading to lack of critical analysis.
I for one, believe in facts; beliefs do not stack up against facts.

On Q&A on Monday night, Lawrence Krauss talked about how scientists love to prove their colleagues wrong. Skeptical scientists have not been able to do that in relation to anthropogenic climate change.

one in god, if you can prove that thermokarst failure is not caused by warmth, wildfires are not caused by warming of the tundra in Siberia (April,2014), the Alaskan coastline is not being eroded as there is little ice to protect it, diseases are not beginning to move North and South from tropical and semitropical areas, and other facts that I have mentioned; then I will start to take on a contrarian view. You would need highly referenced, up to date (2014), peer reviewed scientific papers published in a reputable science journal to have me change my mind. Really you have buckley's and none chance, as no such papers exist.

ant/thats a strong totum[i made treaty with ant-mob]
point being..go measure the c02..comming..from an antnest.

you might.find it\hard to believe/but there are ant eaters out-ther

ant/brain..connotation/implication..<<..I'm really interested to learn..how permafrost areas burn..>>

too easy..get a frakking well
to burst..into..a methane vein/light it-Up..as it rises'to the surface

alternately.-you could spray some petro chemical/on\the tundra
or photo-shop it..you claim..a picture..or just.a redirectION?

<<..if warming hasn't happened,..can you explain that?>>

CAN YOU>?
what/mechanisam..hot..air/no cloud?[explain/any\brain

I KNOW ENOUGH/TO KNOW\THE TAX SEEMS..THE..only-SURE THING
INPUT TEMP UNCHAMNged..[in fact WE WILL SHORTLY/ENTER AN ICE-AGE AFTER THE POLE SHIFTS..AND WE GOT/NO-SOLAR..[AND 18 MONTHS..

OF NO SUN[ITS THEIR PLAN/TO SHUT HUMANITY..DOWN
[THE HAARP..CAN..SET IT OFF ANYTIME/ant/..any-time..THEY CHOSE

SUE ME..ASK ME IN COURT..OOPS SORRY
THATS WHAT WE..GOING TO DO.TO YOU..liars.2.

<<The references..you provided...re just blog spots>>

ONE OF THEM..IS A BRITISH PEER
WHO SUED..AL GORE..WITH 56 LIES;

<<..not much status>>..LOL..<<I'm afraid,>>

HE SCREWED YOUR/ALL*GORE*..
<<..The epidemiological matters..I have raised
have not\*emanated*/from climate scientists,/one under god.>>

NO SHHH IT?

<<.>>What I mentioned..about thermokarst failure..has been mentioned in newspapers..as well as in scientific papers.>>

WHAT I SAID ABOUT POLE SHIFT..WILL HAPPEN
BEFORE THE..100 YEAR GRAND carborn-credit..scam..shuts dowm

YA REALLY THINK..SCIENCE DONT KNOW
THE POLES..GOING TO SHIFT?

<<..It is a matter...caused by permafrost melting>>

BECAUSE MODERN ESKIMOS..LOve their new heateso much they created a hotisland affect....as they got heated underground cities in cannada/bloke..all heated..

so melting snow..go blow it INTO YA MOSE

<<..and land becoming unstable>>
BY PEOPLE..WARMING THEIR HOMES

<<>.,a feature..of climate-change.>>

UEAH/YA FORGOT..POLAR BEARS..'DROWNING'[THEY SWIN HUNDREDS OF KilomETERS/BUT YOUR PALS SAY..THEy..r..DROWNING?

DREAM*ON

<<..Insurance companies..in the US were discussing>>
how to blame/god.ie no payout..'if'..its act..of war//or god..or warming[an ecape clause][/thats proof..0f lie/fear.not pro0f..of warming

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<<..Do you plan..to take Insurance Companies..>>
..what..proof..of\lie..ya got..tape>
writing..voiceprint?

<<.I cannot believe that you are implying..that the impact of CFCs was just a conspiracy.>>

so was..govt/buying tammiflue\*if?the*un..
declared a pandemic/they did\we bought half a billion[us$]....in doses/that expired/..*were indeed never used

[in fact/less flue..that year..than..any other,,year*
[go figure],,treason exposed...sars/swine/bird-flues..all merchandising opportunities/sold\via..a sold-out..media*
http://rss.infowars.com/20140605_Thu_Alex.mp3
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/false-flag-terrorism-to-sustain-americas-humanitarian-agenda_062014