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Cut spending by cutting government : Comments

By Alex Philipatos, published 30/5/2014

Plans to double the efficiency dividend from 1.25% to 2.25% indicate the government is lazy about designing public service cutbacks.

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test for comment thread working
Posted by plantagenet, Sunday, 1 June 2014 1:17:44 PM
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<<test for comment thread working>>

I often wonder why I never saw an OLO article without a comment - at least one. Somehow, I was never able to write the first comment for an article.

Regarding the article itself, a possible solution is to sell all government office-buildings and make the public-servants work instead in uncomfortable shacks with open sewers and no air-conditioning, located outside cities and away from all roads, so they have to walk a few kilometres daily to and from work in mud and rain or the scorching sun. This will ensure that only young, entry-level servants remain and even they wouldn't want to stay in such a job long enough to become managers.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 2 June 2014 2:29:51 AM
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Well, if the aim is to do less with less there's your problem...

"The efficiency dividend applies only to departmental expenses."

Australia's much vaunted egalitarianism should require the the recipients of all government outlays - "programs costs, such as payments to families or subsidies for industry" - to share the same 'efficiency dividend'. In other words to recieve '1.25% to 2.25%' less.

It is interesting use of language to describe as a dividend that which is in fact a negative... but leaving that aside...

To be consistent, or as I like to think of it, democratic, then shouldn't government taxation expenditures also experience the same level of efficiency dividend? Which means that entities enjoying budgetary taxation expenditures would have them decrease 1.25% to 2.25% with the effect of them paying increased taxation revenues?

This would be a real test of how 'over' the age of entitlement the government actually is.

I await the Centre for Independent Studies report on that.
Posted by WmTrevor, Monday, 2 June 2014 8:00:47 AM
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thing is..govt..pays now../because\.;..it claims
it wont have..the cash tomorrow..[cause/they-sold.it..[public-asset]..ie/privatized./it\all.]

*but..yet today..we*are paying/not only..todays\obligations/pensions/but tomorrows..as well.

SO/GOVT..go to hell..the/problem..with govt..is the super..top up*
[for those earning..too much/to..ever-qualify..for any pension/or ioncome subsidy..or govt DISCOUNTS..OR OTHER LURKS AND PERKS/PUBLIC SERVICE IS SO GOOD AT \CREATING FOR ISELF AND THE IN CRPWD[LIKE THOSE FEW RECIEVING 50.000 PLUS ON PENSIONS[CAUSE THEIR IN THE KNOW][LOOP]

HOW COME..the rich./to receive..govt money...TO PRIVATE PENSION/YET NOT-TOO RICH FOR PUBLIC-MONERY..like its just been increased from 180,000..up to 200.000.per year..plus govt top-up[yours].

lets face it giving anyone who in 5 years..will have earened 1 million is iNsane/..no matter how ya spin it/..they wouldnt qualify for..govt-or any pension eVer..[yet gET..A BRIBE/TOP-UP/...[put in an upper limit/..PLUS THE TAX EXEMPTION..reductions[tax advantages]

THE OVER PAID..IS..THE PROBLEM
the 20 BILLION..WE GIFT TO THE 180,000
[OOPS..SORRY..200,000 PLus mob/..too greedy..too needy..your costing us 20 billion today/for faux-pension you can never..really/collect/let alone qualify..for..tomorrow.

you lot..cause..the sorry

TOO MANY..too/RICH RECIEVIN....'PRE EMPTIVE PENSION/THEY NEVER STOOD TO COLLECT..JUST BY THEIR WAGES..[EARNINGS]-alone...lol

aND HER AS..IM..CUT OFF/FROM PENSION..simply/FOR NOT KNOWING..WHO THE DOCTOR WAS..WHO/CALLED]labled/diagnosed..ME..a conspiracy THEORIST[,,YEARS AGO]..BEFORE MOST/OF MY\CONSPIRACIES TURNED OUT TRUE..[NOW..IM NOT NUTS/THEY*\govt/agents//SAY GO TO HELL..3/4 YEARS WITHOUT..ANY CASH/BUTTHESE ELITES.GET..their/fREE SUPER/top-up..huh

saving pennies..yet..screwing/others/like..me
while giving..pounds..to 200,000 wages...earners..off/their-family/trust..funds

poor them..HOW..DO/YOU\SLEEP..AT NIGHT

super..is a pyramid sceme..[a future bubble]
allreaDY THIEVES.HAVE STOLEN M..OST OF IT/KNOW\IT

YOU/super..HOlds/PROMISES\derivitives[side bets/no assets.,EVERY PENNY PUT INTO IT..MAKES US ALL MORE POOR/AS..WE PAY..you..A FREAKING TOP-UP/..ON YOU..NOT EARNING ENOUGH..grow-up.

ENOUGH/lest we forget..tax*breaks..for investment housing/has inflated housing 40/percent..and it..keeps getting worse/recall japan 20 years ago/our houses are the highest/PRICED..in the world

meaning govt/bailout investors..by tax breaks/deductions
plus subsidies..the 'rent assistance'..so the landlord..cleans up hugely/IN..HIS TAX-FREE/OFF-SHOR-FUND.-

if..your rent..has fully paid off[the house]..in twenty years
by what right..does this tax avoiding..landlord by stealth..earned any..further glory.[OR EXTRA/DEDUCTABILITY/OR indeed further proffitable..tax deductive..[landlords/seem/never..to pay-the-rent].

also drop..auto/indexed-wage-indexation..one tribunal/sEMS TO..FLOAT too many..powerfull-boats..who kick\back..taking oversize remuneration/for late lunches and thinking up..ever/greater-burden/sin taxes..onto the poor/minimum wage..tax payer/screwed by everyone.[likely still/under a work contract extension/causes in their work.for the dole ya mug/punitive abusive/collusive treason.

I HEAR THERE ARE..father-LESS KIDS..MUMS..BUT Getting 50,000
YEAH..THE RICH/.. [not\all]..KNOW.HOW_TO_GET/..tHAT BIT EXTRA..but..the/REALITY IS..MOST MUMS DONT..

yet every..wage earner..up to 200..thousand can/will
must..get..a top-up?..[funny we never hear..how much/top-up\these 200,000/eareners recieve...20 billion?
Posted by one under god, Monday, 2 June 2014 8:46:35 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu

To comment first takes skill, character, charisma and of course good looks mate :)

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 2 June 2014 12:16:40 PM
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Dear Pete,

<<To comment first takes skill, character, charisma and of course good looks mate>>

I must be lacking all these because I never came across a topic that didn't have at least one comment already.

Are you sitting in front of the forum's main page and keeping the CTRL-R key pressed all the time?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 2 June 2014 3:33:43 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu

Nope. While I consciously procrastinate in writing attempted masterpieces I keep an eye on OLO.

Last Friday's "The circle of life under a regime of inanity" at http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16361 is free of comments. Take the plunge :)

I've also researched your name and concluded that Yuyutsu, in the Hindu epic Mahabharata, was a son of Dhritrashtra with a Vaishya woman named Sukhada.

Cheers

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 2 June 2014 3:50:55 PM
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Thank you Pete,

I did for the first time post first on an "Article Discussion". Now that article appears on the forum's main page - before that it didn't, so without the latest technical mishap, I wouldn't have known that it exists.

In the Mahabharata, Yuyutsu had the misfortune to be born in the camp of his 100 evil half-brothers, his father being the blind and unjust king, Dhritarashtra.

What was special about him, is that at the critical moment, he took an individual and courageous decision against the tide and deserted his evil family in favour of his righteous cousins, the five Pandavas.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 12:19:47 AM
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There's no need to cut government spending, the real need is to cut the waste. One such way would be to make merit once again the criteria on which to base public service salaries.
Lefties, if you look up Merit you'll get the meaning of the word explained & don't hesitate to ask to have it detailed if you still don't understand.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 5:47:54 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu

No problem

"The circle of life under a regime of inanity" at http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16361 was a better than usual article.

I did some searching and found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita . Which include the quote made famous by Oppenheimer.

Robert Oppenheimer, an American Professor of Theoretical Physics and director of the Manhattan Project, learned Sanskrit in 1933 and read the Bhagavad Gita in the original form, citing it later as one of the most influential books to shape his philosophy of life. Upon witnessing the world's first nuclear test in 1945, he later said he had thought:

"I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty, and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.'" .

Regards

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 10:39:10 AM
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Dear Pete,

<<'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.'>>

According to the Bhagavad-Gita 4:7-8, Vishnu - the preserver aspect of God, reincarnates himself age-after-age whenever evil exceeds its boundaries, with the threefold aim of delivering the pious, annihilating the miscreants and re-establishing the principles of religion.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 11:53:01 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu

I've gone out and downloaded the BHAGAVAD GITA in .pdf at http://www.dlshq.org/download/bgita.pdf so as to improve my knowledge of Hindu religion - whenever our comments cross.

Cheers

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 9:10:00 PM
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