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By John Pilger, published 24/4/2014In February, the United States mounted one of its proxy 'colour' coups against the elected government of Ukraine; the shock troops were fascists.
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Once again we have the accusation, without a shred of supporting evidence that the Government in Kiev consists of fascists and neo-Nazis. This assertion originally came from the Kremlin and has been taken up enthusiastically amid the ranks of the Putin apologists. However, it is disappointing that the chorus includes the once respected and award-winning member of my profession, John Pilger. One must sadly assume that his investigative facilities and sense of balanced reporting have been blunted by advancing age. For the record the Ukrainian Government is mostly drawn from two parties – Batkivshchyna, whose titular head is Yulia Tymoshenko and is considered centre-right, and Svoboda which certainly had its roots in the far right, but has moderated its stance in recent years. It might also be noted that the leftist Party of the Regions of ousted President Viktor Yanukovych continues to attend Parliament in opposition. Allegations that the Government is anti-Semitic have been refuted by the Chief Rabbi of Ukraine, Moshe Reuven Alman, who said that not a single instance of anti-Semitic attacks have been reported to him in Western Ukraine since the revolution. One can only assume that amid the plunder the old Soviet Union took out of Germany at the end of World War II was the Joseph Goebbels playbook on the bigger the lie the more likely it is to be believed.
Posted by Graham Cooke, Thursday, 24 April 2014 2:47:21 PM
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What I love about Pilger, the Sunlamp Codger, is that his brain, long past its Use By Date, continues to draw curiosity.
As for US Defense Secretary Charles "Chuck" Hagel, sure he likes a case of Jack Daniels or two. But when he's pickled and his elbow's on the launch button our otherwise long suffering lives might become very exciting. Scares the hell out of Chinese and makes Putin poo his pants. Chuck could pummel Pilger any day o the week. Pete Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 24 April 2014 3:10:30 PM
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Pete, you may crave excitement in your life but most normal people can well do without it especially if it involves nukes.
What brought you to this war-worshiping state of mind, Pete? Didn't you read Biggles and listen to Superman and Tarzan like normal kids? Posted by David G, Thursday, 24 April 2014 4:06:09 PM
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Aw DG
May your pet monkey gibber. Didn't ya recognise that my comment: "As for US Defense Secretary Charles "Chuck" Hagel, sure he likes a case of Jack Daniels or two. But when he's pickled and his elbow's on the launch button our otherwise long suffering lives might become very exciting." ..was a criticism of Hagel, US cowboy politics, and a denunciation of nuclear war. Both your legs are being pulled, not what's in between. Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 24 April 2014 4:24:57 PM
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MR COOKE/quote..><<Allegations that the Government is anti-Semitic have been refuted by the Chief Rabbi of Ukraine,>>
yes i know redirection is basic mozzaD media spin but the real problem..run deeper..than the israel blackflags that unwound http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ukraine+jewish+news AND STRAIGHT AWAY..WE SEE THE BANKER JEW INSTALLED AT A COST OF 6 BILLION OF yanki/OUTSIDE AGENCY PROVokateERING.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ukraine As of 2012, Ukraine had the fifth-largest Jewish community in Europe and the twelfth-largest Jewish community in the world, behind South Africa and ahead of Mexico. The majority of Ukrainian Jews live in four large cities: Kiev (about half of all Jews living in Ukraine[3]), Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv, and Odessa.[86] Rabbis Yaakov Dov Bleich of Kiev and Shmuel Kaminetzky of Dnipropetrovsk are considered to be among the most influential foreigners in the country.[87] *There is a growing trend among some Israelis to visit Ukraine on a "roots trip" to follow the footsteps of Jewish life there.[88]KEY* OFTEN UNDER CANADIA PASSPORTS..but thats the folks manning the barriers[ie kids trained by mossad] boy talk about professional provateurs ONLY BLIND FREDDY COULD SEE THE ZIONIST HAND BEHIND EVERY BIT OF THIS Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 April 2014 4:30:47 PM
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Let's see:
The US is sending 600 troops to Poland, a sovereign country. Russia has 140,000 troops right on Ukraine's border. Biden has just been visiting Ukraine, a sovereign country. Ukraine has the right to host whoever the hell it likes. Who has interfered in the internal affairs of another country ? [God, I'm so old-fashioned, to think that it matters]. Are Poles or Americans taking over government buildings in western Ukraine, or kidnapping, torturing and murdering officials there ? Not as far as I know. Is the US demanding that people in western Ukraine (or anywhere else, for that matter) submit to a referendum under their supervision, on the subject of secession and incorporation into the US ? Not as far as I know. If any group tried to take over government buildings and murder officials here in some part of Australia, what would be your response, dear reader ? Would you give them the slightest time of day ? Or would you wait and see what position the US would take on that issue first ? Then decide ? i.e. opportunism ? I was born on the Left and I'll die on Left, but it's not the same 'Left' as that of unprincipled scum like Pilger's. Arjay praising Pilger - well, it's all anti-US, isn't it, so it must be okay. What a bankrupt bunch. And their best effort - Poirot's and Foxy's - is 'nyah, nyah, well, you did too ...' Sometimes I weep for a genuine, principled, thinking, Left. Those were the days. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 24 April 2014 4:36:27 PM
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