http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/04/26/moving-closer-war-paul-craig-roberts/ Dr Paul Craig Roberts makes some pungent points here but the West remains oblivious to the mess they've created.

For our banking oligarchs who control the West, nuclear war will be their escape from us and the GFC that is far from over.

Our elites have miles of underground cities, with seed banks and the capacity for growing food. There is even a nuke fallout shelter under Parliament House in Canberra. If our elites feel secure in their underground shelters, this makes a nuclear war all the more possible because they will survive.

Both the USA and Russia have enough nukes to destroy the planet at least 6 times over. Like the stock exchange,computers now determine panic selling and deployment of nuke weapons. Who will have the time to stop a nuclear exchange ? It will be all over in a couple of hours and the we all slowly starve to death in a nuclear winter.

Putin is not the kind of person who backs down and our psychopaths in the West will not have their dream of a New World Order be dashed by anyone.

Even for you, this is a bit of a stretch, Arjay.

>>Our elites have miles of underground cities, with seed banks and the capacity for growing food.<<

It would appear that your paranoia has finally reached its natural conclusion, in which an imaginary bunch of people, invisible and unreachable, has created their own parallel universe, from which you are excluded. In your mind, these people have everything - underground cities in which they stroll and play, rolling acres of rich (underground?) pastures providing food - no doubt their own vineyards, breweries and distilleries too. And free, of course. Free of the cares of the world - because after all, they own everything, so want for nothing.

So sad. It will be the voices next, I'm afraid.

And just a passing thought on this one:

>>There is even a nuke fallout shelter under Parliament House in Canberra. If our elites feel secure in their underground shelters, this makes a nuclear war all the more possible because they will survive.<<

Ok, let's run with that for a moment. When you say "survive", what exactly do you mean? Will they continue to live underground, do you think? Who built this world of underground wonder, complete with food-growing capability and easy living all while you weren't looking? Such an enterprise would hardly have gone unnoticed, surely?

Perhaps it was the same guys who planted the nanothermite bombs in the WTC...?

Peticles, who you kidding. People have been building underground dwellings for thousands of years. Here are a few we know about.http://listverse.com/2013/01/22/10-amazing-underground-cities/

Heard of doomsday preppers in the USA? They've been building shelters for decades. How big a shelter would central bankers build with unlimited money? Answer; big enough to see out a nuclear winter.

"There is even a nuke fallout shelter under Parliament House in Canberra."

http://www.4bc.com.au/gallery/ParliamentCathedral?selectedImage=2

Doesn't look like much of one... and about as nuclear proof as amazing underground city number four on your link.

Now if you could show us the nuke fallout shelters underneath the big banks we could start to take you more seriously, Arjay.

"For our banking oligarchs who control the West, nuclear war will be their escape from us and the GFC that is far from over."

So all the trillions of dollars of accumulated personal, corporate and government debt, you keep complaining about, which is owed to them gets written off? The circumstances were very different when Solon pulled that one off.

Meanwhile, I'll treat the logic of our world oligarch banking elites creating nuclear war being as sensible as their desiring a global nuclear winter in order to lengthen the skiing season.

WM Trevor the trillions of $ of debt created by our Central Bankers comes with the click of a computer mouse. They are depreciating our currencies via inflation and we are all paying for our own economic demise to these thieving bankers.

New money for inflation + growth should not be created as debt. Only elected Govts should have that power.

One thing I've noticed about all the Pilger critics over the years is they always seem to challenge his opinion but never challenge his facts.

It's as though what he says is not demonstrably wrong but some simply refuse to accept it as true.

They may not be able to disprove what he claims but demand their right not to believe it. More denialism at work?