"One thing I've noticed about all the Pilger critics over the years is they always seem to challenge his opinion but never challenge his facts."

Perhaps one should start with:

"In fact, the Americans were so far ahead in the production of ICBMs, the Russians never approached them. The cold war was based largely on this lie."

In fact the cold war started in 1947, well before the “missile gap” was invented. The gap was first proposed by the Gaither Committee in 1957.

“In 1964, the year Strangelove was made, "the missile gap" was the false flag."

The Kennedy administration had by mid 1961 acknowledged that the gap did not exist as proposed, but instead the US was far ahead of the USSR in ICBMs.

“In order to build more and bigger nuclear weapons and pursue an undeclared policy of domination, President John Kennedy approved the CIA's propaganda that the Soviet Union was well ahead of the US in the production of Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles.”

As the “missile gap” reports and documents were published in 1957 to 1959, before Kennedy became president, he would have been unable to do this. The CIA estimate at the time for ICBMs was indeed inflated. The CIA suggested there were about 12, when in reality there were only about 4.

“Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US has ringed Russia with military bases, nuclear warplanes and missiles as part of its "Nato Enlargement Project".”

Russia is not ringed with US military bases. There are no US military bases in most of the countries that border Russia. Most of the countries that border Russia are also not members of NATO. Nations request to become part of NATO, they are not forced into it.

Arjay,

Thanks for your entertaining contributions.

I wonder what international bankers do with all those trillions they steal ? Invest it, perhaps, or lend it back out. Or perhaps, like Scrooge McDuck, keep it all in a back-room, to roll around in ?

International bankers wanting inflation ? Well, there goes the value of their ill-gotten trillions, and any real value of their lendings.

Ditto, wanting nuclear war ? There goes their customer base, not to mention that degree of uncertainty which makes any reliance on money that much more risky.

If I were an international banker (and let's not mention what persuasion you think they all are), I would go for stability, certainty, low inflation and more-of-the-same.

Stop watching disaster movies, Arjay :)

Joe

Classic, Arjay.

>>How big a shelter would central bankers build with unlimited money? Answer; big enough to see out a nuclear winter.<<

So, have they started on the project yet? Where is it, do you think? Have they started growing the crops/herding the cattle etc. that they will need in order to keep having the lunch to which they have become accustomed?...

http://www.thefatduck.co.uk/The-Menus/Tasting-Menu/

Or are they prepared to do it tough, with no servants, no drinks on the terrace overlooking the Bay of Naples, no Gulfstream to take them to the next meeting of the secret bankers cabal - in fact, no more secret bankers cabal meetings to go to?

Why, in the name of all that passes for sanity in this world, would they risk all that (you claim) they have, in exchange for a post-apocalyptic nuclear winter?

Incidentally, just one further thought.

What would they use for money, where will they keep it and who will they spend it with?

Get a grip, Arjay, and start thinking these things through, just a little.

FREAKING HAVING A HARD TIME POSTING..damm caps
http://rss.infowars.com/20140501_Thu_Alex.mp3

anyhow they work by exclusion[ie if your one of us your safe from any govt strictures/obligation or PROSECUTION..[your with us or against us]

as exemplified daily..[ie madof ripped off the elites.[thats why only he has had his judgment day

then there is ken delay/had a convenient heartattach/and reidentity assignment no doudt
recovered on the bush landed estates/dont ignore the bush conection
and all that enron stuff that went away when bUILDING 7 DESTROYED IT/YET IT NEVER GOT HIT BY A PLANE

the elites.. made you
they can break you..the rules of right or flight club apply
thats just the way it is

but they too have their judgment day
6 may..
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6293&page=10

Building 7 at the WTC collapsed on 11 September 2001 after suffering structural damage from debris striking it from the collapse of the North Tower creating internal fires that weakened the supporting collumns.

Although what this has to do with the Ukraine, I am at a loss to understand.

HI SHARE-CROPPER.. damm caps
building seven..was many things to many people[the link links back to the vault of gold helD IN BUILDING 7[THAT LINKS TO THE 25 TON OF GOLD TAKEN FROM UKRANE/BY THAT IMF BANKER.

that links to the lost gold from cyclone sandy/[the gold apparently meltted..iout of the vault]

vaporised like sadam insanes gold reserves and the gadaffie gold
gold is central/but that wasnt the ppoint of the post[its that the elites got to 'lease' the gold..the[for 33 dollars 33 cents..[44.4 cents]..the ounze..and that them the leaseholders sold the gold

but can i sel;l my rented house
or sell my renta car/but every member of the bankers club..of 7 stole our gold/by act of high treason/debasing the queen coin/but because its all on a wink or a nod/no one gets jail/unless they jump when told to jump their gone

its that govt has become subverted by crime gangs looting and exploiting the common wealth..from the peons

[you will notice how joe quietly has put even our mint up for sale?

do aqs ya told joe
just like keating did as he was told/sell the commonwealth bank/for 9 billion[that now pays nine bilion in proffits/sell telstra..sell ya sewers/we will lease them back from you/but then the default clause..[double normal repayment..in case of default[we defauted].[but i cant be botherd back looking for the link.
http://www.seiu.org/images/pdfs/Interest%20Rate%20Swap%20Report%2003%2022%202010.pdf

http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss