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By Anthony Cox, published 2/4/2014Hollywood takes a Christian fable and turns it on its head as a warning to those who would manage creation.
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Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 7:41:49 AM
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Good old Rusty. But like most Hollywood actors he is 99% ego and is very susceptible to fads and scams like AGW.
This film cost about $140 million. That's like $140 mill free advertisement for the IPCC. As Hollywood floods go this one has it all over Crowe's green bit of wet lettuce and talking rocks; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020223/ Just think Myrna Loy as a slave girl. That's a flood. Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 8:12:14 AM
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The last ice age not worth a mention, being the result of volcanic action, it does not relate to man made volcanic action.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 8:19:06 AM
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"The last ice age not worth a mention, being the result of volcanic action, it does not relate to man made volcanic action."
I know you can say funny things 579 but that takes the cake. The ice ages are a product of Milankovitch cycles. And you are now saying humans cause volcanoes?! Cripes, poor humanity; alarmists no bounds in their dislike for humans and their willingness to blame humanity for everything. Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 8:39:56 AM
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yep the self righteous outrage against humans by the warmist does not stop them from living godless lives. They even boast about it. On the other hand the flood four thousand years ago certainly shut the mouths of the mockers of their Creator. Won't be any different next time however it will be fire that destroys the earth rather than flood.The author is half right however defining Noahs flood as a myth displays ignorance and lack of desire to acknowledge truth.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 9:14:06 AM
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runner, the Earth was one big flood as the interglacial began 22000 years ago and resurged after the Younger Dryas 11000 years ago. Sea levels rose inexorably as the vast ice age ice sheets melted.
Combined with that was the end of the polar droughts which the world endured during the ice ages due to the water being frozen. The rains and consequent floods were vast. A good example is visible outside of Lochinvar going west with huge river basins formed as a combination of runoff and powerful tidal action as the seas rose. Nothing biblical about it all. The hypocrisy here is AGW attempting to claim God-like status for its stupid theory while impugning conventional religious folklore based on the warming and its effects at the beginning of this interglacial. Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 10:06:54 AM
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Well, the great flood, if there was one, was limited to just a few hundred thousand humans, living together, in a single large valley?
There was an ice age, the last one as recent as 14,000 years ago. It is not incomprehensible, to understand, some of the melt-water, could have been trapped behind natural barriers, that then finally succumbed, as the water levels rose, and created the folklore that is the allegorical story of the great flood and animals saved, two by two. We know what happens to any species, when the gene pool settles below a critical mass, meaning, this allegorical story is just folklore or fable. In a climate change warmer wetter future, we can adapt, by building many more dams, to harvest the increased water numbers, and hold it back, when it comes down too fast as drownpours. We certainly don't need to see the main streets of our CBD's, become killing field raging torrents, that reminiscent of the fable, sweep all before it, killing virtually all who happen to be going about their normal lawful business. The harebrained greens have a lot to answer for, with their loony toon resistance to critical dam building! How many of the recent flood deaths could have been prevented, by a stitch in time, dam creation? Some of which, if very well constructed, could be serving our needs, well into the next century. Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 10:09:30 AM
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Did it have dinosaurs? If it didn't have dinosaurs, then it was BS. Everyone knows they were wiped out in the flood.
Good to see you taking up things that more suit your talents Mr. Cox, like writing movie reviews. Not your best work, but a nice break from sciencey fiction. Posted by Bugsy, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 10:34:36 AM
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What an atrocious essay - full of the usual simplistic reductionist cliches that the so called skeptics specialize in.
First of all there is nothing remotely "traditional" about the world-view promoted by the Cornwall Alliance. Indeed the world-view that they do promote is squarely within the anti religious and more importantly anti-Spiritual paradigm of scientific materialism. An essentially barbaric paradigm that reduces everything and everyone to mere hard-edged objectified thingness. A world of "matter" only, a world completely devoid of any psychic depth or feeling sensitivity. These references describe the more ancient traditional kind of mind or psyche that informed the old-time religions, and how it was eclipsed by the hard edge objectifying ideology of scientism. http://www.adidam.org/teaching/gnosticon/religion-scientism http://www.aboutadidam.org/readings/bridge_to_god/index.html Plus this essay and website on how everyone and everything is inter-connected as or in an Indivisible Unity. http://sacredcamelgardens.com/wordpress/i-embrace-all-beings This essay too - particularly section 2 re our relationship to the non-humans and the non-human world altogether. http://www.dabase.org/p9rightness.htm Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 10:38:41 AM
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I only went to the first of Daffy's links which informed me;
"Therefore, the ancient "religions" are all forms of connection to the etheric dimension of existence, which is emotional in nature. You are already connected to it via your emotional-sexual functions," It made me refer to my old Aleister Crowley collection. Pansexuality indeed. Daffy's quaint diatribe actually confirms the point of the essay; which is the screwy alarmists invest and justify their belief in AGW on the basis of its spirituality. The irony is they also want to ground it in hard formal science and objective evidence. As the paucity of the latter becomes more and more evident we can expect to see more invocations of spiritual and mystical proof such as Noah's rewriting of Biblical history. After the Bible is exhausted I guess Crowley will get a look in Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 11:03:28 AM
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AUTHERS/QUOTE..<<...The theme is..the inevitable catastrophic consequences..>>..of govt cash cow sukkers bleeding dry a cash cow..by putting some LIPSTICK..ON THE DEAD PIG.
The theme..FOR TODAY..IS..<<...is the inevitable catastrophic consequences>>if wqe dont get free carbon crddit trading immediatly cause we found new proof..in the bible..that can make things look glUM..AND THAT WHEN AL GORE [ALL GORE]..MR CARBON CREDIT/LORD HIGH PRIEST OF THE C02 DEATH CULT TAX..SAYS<<...when humans interfere with nature...[WE GET ON OUR THINKING CAPS..AND PLAY THE JOKER CARDS.. <<Russell Crowe's portentous..Noah continues this theme..but with a fascinating twist...In Noah..*nature>>[HAD NUTHIN TO DO WITH IT NOT AS A DiRECT CAUSE..MAYBE AS A WAY FLOODS BREEDING FLIES/FEEDING FROGS DEAD FROGS AND HIGH HUMIDITY POISEND THE GRAIN[ATE AS TRADITION REQUIRED BY THE FIRST BORN FIRST/THUS KILLING THEM FIRST]..BUT THAT WAS ONLY THE RESULT OF ENSLAVEMENT[YOU NOW LIE ALL GORE WANTS TO DO TODAY ANYHOW..THAT WAS MOSUS WTH..THE FLOOD?..THAT WAS WHAT WATER RISING 30 METERS..[NOT REALLY]..MORE IMPLIED TO BE KILIOMETERS HIGH..BUT WTF ..LETS FOLLOW THE LATEST GREENIE GLOBALIST SCAM BUT IN noah...<<..nature..is given a religious quality..with all the moral status..>>[INHERANT WITH SURVIVAL/OF FITTEST..RANDOM DISASTER/ENDLESS REGIRTH.NATURE SURVIVING ALL WE CAN THROW AT IT CALM DOWN JOHAN../QUOTE..<<..religious/nature/moral status..that comes with that>>...LEVEL..OF TRUST/BLIND FAITH..CASHFLOW/10 PERCENT TITHE..tything..etc....<<..but without a traditional religious God >>.. lol the godfree faithfull bow down..before all/gore...<<..and the compromise which comes from that in respect of the clash between science and received knowledge from such a God.>>.. exudus would have done/much better but the godless self decieve//only themselves yet again <<...In effect nature has been mystified..but God has either been>>[QUOTE BECOMES UNCLEAR] ..SUBJECTED..TO subjugate..TO to DeiTY-cide or replaced. REGARDLESS CLEAR STUFF AND NONSENCE..BUT..IT GETS WORSE ORIGONAL SIN..NO LESS..BUT VERY REVEALING[A REVELATION] <<..Man-made global warming [AGW] was always a reworking of the Eden myth where the paradise of nature was despoiled by the use of fossil fuels. And just like Eden where God banished Adam and Eve to a harsh unnatural world AGW says the backlash from nature to humanity's abuse of nature will be equally harsh.>> WATCH OUT FOR..ALL GORE COMING BACK..FOR MORE. Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 5:32:02 PM
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Like Ken Ham, I believe the Noah movie is not realistic enough. For instance, Noah is supposed to be 600 years old, but in the trailers Russell Crowe doesn't look a day over 450! When will Hollywood learn to get their facts right?
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 3 April 2014 6:05:17 AM
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It is quite ironic to see a movie based on a religious fable being used in this article to prop up another fable. The article is an epic (or perhaps a musical, it is not clear which) with a large cast of strawmen thrown in for good measure.
But then what should we expect from Anthony Cox? Fiction is what he specialises in. Posted by Agronomist, Thursday, 3 April 2014 7:57:29 AM
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Very droll Agro. Did you know that legally belief in AGW is now recognised by the courts as a religion? It's true:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/tim-nicholson-a-green-martyr-1648388.html From the article: "An executive sacked from a giant property company can claim he was unfairly dismissed because of his "philosophical belief in climate change", a judge ruled yesterday....That conviction amounted to a philosophical belief under the Employment Equality (Religion and Belief) Regulations, 2003, the judge ruled on a point of law at a pre-hearing review of an employment tribunal in London." Now what was that about fiction again agro? Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 3 April 2014 8:38:31 AM
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You can't even get that right can you cohenite?
"In the first case of its kind, employment judge David Sneath said Tim Nicholson, a former environmental policy officer, could invoke employment law for protection from discrimination against him for his conviction that climate change was the world's most important environmental problem." It was not his belief in climate change, but his conviction that climate change was the world's most important problem. This is just like most of your writings, wrong in substance and wrong in detail. I suppose that is what comes from having a religious belief. Posted by Agronomist, Thursday, 3 April 2014 8:55:17 AM
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"That conviction amounted to a philosophical belief under the Employment Equality (Religion and Belief) Regulations, 2003, the judge ruled on a point of law at a pre-hearing review of an employment tribunal in London."
I repeat the litigation was brought under the Employment Equality (Religion and Belief) Regulations, 2003. Religion and Belief. Get it agro? It didn't matter if like you the nice religious gentleman thought AGW was the most cosmic, really, really important and the world's most important environmental problem for ever and ever in the history of the world. The point was he BELIEVED and his belief was akin, for purposes of the ACT, to a religious belief. I mean, joe blow could go down there tomorrow and claim his employer had mistreated or fired him because he was a member of the Druids, second class local chapter, and if he could convince the beak he had a religious belief he would win his case. Whether he thought his religious belief was the most important thing in the world was irrelevant. All beliefs are the most important things to those who hold them. That's the point agro. And don't go all legal on me agro; that's a leap too far even for you. Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 3 April 2014 9:33:14 AM
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CO-DYNOMITE/QUOTE..<<..Did you know that legally belief in AGW is now recognized by the courts as a religion?>>
MADE WITH OR WITHOUT input from religions seems ALL religions name names..and their works so algore..is he jesus or god..or judas? clearly a godless judge ruled an appeal by the godless when one claims 'fact/science..no less..and that science presumably refutes all THE 'OTHER' CREEDS.. NO...mmgw..isnt agw..except to the deceived by science just as science has been juxtaposed as rejecting of god/creation YET NOW CLAIMS EQUAL ADVANTAGE TO FURTHER DISADVANTAGE any GOD CONCEPT. clearly this is satans realm and yes the state doth control religions via the charities acts and global warmists love tax free/plus a nice cash cow/tithe..carbon credit..to further ridicule yeT OTHERS GOD GIVEN CREEDS its too clever by far author/quote,,..<<..Man-made global warming [AGW] was always a reworking of the Eden myth>> that one word...'myth'..says it all its not a religion..its the antitheses of religion that seeks to get rich paying FOR DISPENSATION..[PERMISSIONS]..TO POLLUTE BUT THESE.,*PERMISSIONS ARE ONLY GIFTED..TO THE DEAD IE..ONLY THE DEAD GAIN/,,BY ABUSE'S[SIN-TAXES].REAPED UPON THE LIVING KILLING US..WITH THEIR DEAD WEIGHT..[OK LETS CALL..IT KISMET OR KARMA] BUT ITS NOT A Religion..but by ruling..of the dead state,PERSONA,on behalf of....a dead corpse..[church/state/COURT..corporate person-hood'.person]..their all dead WEIGHT/mate <<>>where..the paradise*..of nature.>> IE/..the garden..[OF EDEN]..WASN'T RAW*WILD Nature/THUS\to imply that eden=simply the same*'nature'..[they just got...expelled FROM...and worse implying..lo..that..>/<<..was despoiled..by the use of fossil fuels.>>..=LIE/UPON\LIE IT/simply reveals..yet more of the..lies in this scheme/scam but wait...please note..the 'double speak..inducing double speak] <<>.And just like Eden>..[reflection/nurture]..<<where God banished Adam and Eve to a harsh unnatural world AGW>>..[nature fighting back material naturalists]..ie..greenie godless nature lovers/LOVING...HUMANITIES-DEATH. who love nature..so much.they will gladly destroy us..[they/blame]..as/despoiling..-nature[rather than perfecting].life..dares to utter these words hear*<<says the backlash..from nature to humanity's abuse..of nature will be equally harsh.>>..and we got just..*the right type*..of invisible SIN-tax*..on the very basis..of all carbon based LIFE..WE NEED WE JUST NEED..THE GODLESS..sin/taxing the many for the few..to be bailed-out,,yet again...[THE truely godless;dead].. SUCK..AT OUR..VERY LIFE-BLOOD..TAX..US INTO EARLY DEATH/AFTER MISERY LIFE. 2b/ctd. Posted by one under god, Thursday, 3 April 2014 9:48:02 AM
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<<says the backlash from nature to humanity's abuse of nature will be equally harsh.>>..and we got just the right type of invisable tax on the very basis of all carbon based LIFE WE NEED
WE JUST NEED THE GODLESS..TO KEEP PUNCHING AWAY AT MINIMIZATION OF GODS BEING GOOD...TO NATURE NEEDING THE NURTURE..and kill the rest of humanity.. yes its kismet chose one master.pay tythe to one..oR THE OTHER BUT ITS TIME THE WASTERS PAID FOR THAT THEY DESPOIL..NOT BY TAXING THE LESSER ABUSERRS BUT THE WORST SAY 1000..BUT WAIT..WE NEED GIVE THESE FEW FREE CREDIT HUH? WAKEUP..GOD MADE NOTHING MEN CAN DESTROY EVERY CIGGIE BUTT DONT KILL A FISH..BUT ITS THE SAME GRAND SCAM YOUR ALL POLLUTING STINKING SMOKING DOPER POLLUTERS NOW..AND THE CLEAN GREEN'S WANT YOU DEAD..SO NATURE CAN DO..its survival of the fattest/versus..the pay as you pollute..survey of fittest thing/THING/think.[WHILE THOSE WHO SHOULD BE CAST OUT..MAKE THEIR IDEA OF FREE ENERGY..for them/while on earth..PAID FOR BY US DIRTY SMELLY POUTERS GUILT MAKES GREAT SIN TAXES TILL YOur the sinner THE RULE COULD BE YOU SPIN YOU CANT WIN..the dead must stop slowkilling the living get a life Posted by one under god, Thursday, 3 April 2014 9:52:12 AM
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Another blatant example of copyright piracy by Hollywood, which is particularly hypocritical when they are the biggest complainers when others download their miserable products.
Don't they know that copyright in the King James Bible is held by the Queen? It reminds me of when a cake shop in Scotland a few years ago sold "Peter Pan" cakes and was inundated by writs from Disney copyright lawyers. Then along came the Great Ormond Street Hospital for Sick Children who said: "Bugger off Disney, you're just a licencee; the hospital owns the copyright for Peter Pan". They then licenced the cake shop for £100. Posted by plerdsus, Thursday, 3 April 2014 11:26:30 AM
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as a point of intrest
alex jones breaks down..the movie noah http://rss.infowars.com/20140403_Thu_Alex.mp3 with some interesting stuff [around 2 hours 44 minute mark] Posted by one under god, Friday, 4 April 2014 9:32:58 PM
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It mystifies me that even in a country that generally has no idea as to satire, most people seem to miss the point. The 'Noah' film is a send -up - specifically of blockbuster biblical epics but also the nonsensical genesis story itself. Noah's ridiculous buzz haircut, the use of something that looks suspiciously like custom-orb gal iron as shields, the beautifully inappropriate casting of the villain, give the game away to the reasonably astute viewer. Even the name of the villain has significance to some of us. No thinking person could take the film seriously.
Posted by GYM-FISH, Monday, 7 April 2014 7:58:41 AM
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GYM; I agree this movie is satirical but I think it fits right in to the category of unintentionally satirical. I still think its pro-AGW credentials are as plain as the stubble on Rusty's fat face. The thing hasn't got a brain in its head; and don't forget it has Nick Nolte, a walking parody in the cast.
Posted by cohenite, Monday, 7 April 2014 8:48:35 AM
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I CAN SEE RATHER///clearly..that this whole movie idea
is a atheist global warming plot..THAT SEEKS TO TAX EVERYTHING WITH GUILT..sin taxes/that allow big polluters..to get special dispensation[read free salable tax credits] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2597907/Green-smear-campaign-against-professor-dared-disown-sexed-UN-climate-dossier.html ie evil polluters to keep polluting http://www.newsforage.com/2014/04/eu-unhappy-with-australias-decision-to.html http://investmentwatchblog.com/nomuras-chief-economist-richard-koo-u-s-heading-for-1900-percent-inflation-rate/ yet..it seems god is regarded as this villain http://www.google.com.au/search?q=NOAH+VILLIAN&ie clearly the atheists godless guilt brigade..[not holowcaust denieying have found god the new villian?/ i dont watch ccc rap movies/i prefer..writing..clear speaking if god is bad..then explain it fully..what reason would god have..to end the half breed missdeeds of the sons of god[fallen angels]..nair the twain be meeT. ITS TIMING IS PERFECT..with the latest imf gab fest expecting a yanki dollar fall/with the un report..[that fails cto even mention the complete and utter error in their modeling bliong..revealed in the first report yep money/changing polluting lying demons athiests of course..see it all..as win win..a lovely new invisible money/carbon credit/they control..to print the new age money system to subsume the old fiat paper/money susstem..fast sending us all broke MOVIES ARE FOR IGNORANT S TO DUMB TO READ led like bleeding sheep..is god the criminal? YOU CRIMINALIZE GOD?..yet trust man?..lol http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/04/05/the-monster-on-the-hill/ http://xrepublic.tv/node/8331 http://investmentwatchblog.com/this-chart-is-a-true-picture-of-how-qe-solved-the-unemployment-crisis-in-america/ http://www.naturalnews.com/044572_vaccines_Chevy_Cobalt_legal_immunity.html# http://investmentwatchblog.com/government-caught-trying-to-spark-flash-mobs-for-civil-unrest-by-setting-up-social-media-company/ http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-04/christine-lagarde-clueless-70-words-pure-keynesian-claptrap http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-01/12-largest-banks-sued-public-retirement-funds-conspiring-rig-global-fx-markets WAKE-UP..WE LIVE IN THE TIME OF NEWS speak[Orwellian/guilt trip] make god the villain..call good bad etc..[tax weightless gas by the ton//global warming means ICE STORMS in usa/work choices/sin tax..honorable MEMBER..BEST MAN..MORE HOLIER THAN THOU..IMMUNE FROM RESULT..PAYING POLUTERS TO POLLUTE WILL FIX IT http://www.newsforage.com/2014/04/tobacco-plant-has-key-to-fighting.html BAH http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/diaspora-psychosis/ WAR AGAINST DRUG USERS/NOW A WAR ON CARBON POLLUTERS WARS MAKE WAR MONGERS RICH..simply create a villain..and get more holy than thou? JAM YA TAX..BANKERS PAID FOR THE MOVIE/RIGHT PAID FOR PUBLICITY ?..BANKERS NEED A NEW CASH COW? GREAT ..GOOD LUCK MAKING GOD THE VILLAIN..ITS THE MONEY CHANGERS[GET IT?] http://www.cafepress.com/wrh_prem/11192436 http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Kamikaze_Economics_and_Politics_of_Forcing_Austerity_on_the_Ukraine/34299/0/38/38/Y/M.html obama..'care'..was written/by..the health insurance agencies think..who monetized sickness..now seeks to monetize/monoplize-pollution.. who..has plenty of cash to splash/but will soon crash.. enter the false peacemaker..condom man.. http://floppingaces.net/2014/04/06/obama-and-the-epa-know-no-bounds-with-regard-to-climate-change/ catch-up..with the facts/truth needs no lies. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/climategate.php Posted by one under god, Monday, 7 April 2014 9:29:13 AM
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We were tribes and the collective memory would be passed down and written up in various fables like the bible. Interesting, yes, fun yes and purely speculative of course.
Come on, our Rusty has made a film with loads of special effects, sounds great.
Do not take those effnuckles seriously though. What next Britney Spears giving her thoughts here?