Yep we will be struggling with gender equality until we get rid of feminist control of education. There is no chance of equality until we get back to examination results for ranking, rather than teacher evaluation.

We will need to get back to real subjects too. Dance, media studies, & performing arts have no place in assessment of students.

Once this happens, we will need to get rid of all the fairy floss subjects growing like mildew in our universities. With proper ranking, & real subjects in universities we may get equal access for males.

Until then we will have the existing overrepresentation of girls in higher education. Equity starts at school, as should represent real scholarship.

Conrad do you recall the story of "The Boy who Cried Wolf"?

Some of the earlier comments highlight part of the problem, there is so much spin and misinformation on the issue that any genuine structural inequalities are hard to pick out from the doctored claims.

Part of the problem is that the concept of gender equality is very much treated as Us against Them rather than a recognition that past structures have provided advantages and disadvantages to each gender.

Part of the problem is that those most strongly pushing the gender inequality barrow refuse to accept that women have played any role in shaping society. The significant role that early childhood nurture has on future attitudes and values is dismissed.

The role women have in shaping which characteristics men strive for is dismissed. Few men grow up not knowing that the male who earns more, is tougher, or in some other way ahead of the pack is more likely to have an easier time attracting a mate than others.

We don't see those claiming that gender inequality is still a major issue working to change many women's preference for dating men who are wealthier than themselves.

The problem is compounded by those who don't consider women as responsible as men and who want special leniency. One that particularly frustrates me is the view that men who don't want to be ruthlessly hammered by CSA had their choices ended at the choice or not to wear a condom by those who are also keen advocates of a woman's right to an abortion.

I get the impression that there are still some genuine inequalities facing women that are not just a matter of preference (women choosing careers they find more emotionally or lifestyle rewarding than men). At the same time there are injustices and inequalities facing men.

Neither are helped by the spin and lies clouding the issues.

R0bert

RObert, I agree there are lies and misconceptions from both genders re gender inequality.

Like the lie about most women only looking for men who earn more than themselves.
What utter old fashioned rubbish!

I obviously don't mix in that particular shallow pool of vacuous women (or men).
Maybe you need to look in other areas or circles for women RObert.

Certainly, like some men, there are some pompous women about who feel that way, but more likely it is the men in these relationships who feel they should make more than the little wife, thereby able to have control over the finances, as in all other areas, by saying they earn more money than her!

I have always earned more than my husband for every year of our 26 year happy marriage, even when I only worked weekends after my daughter was born.
We look at all money coming into the relationship as 'our' money, and it has never been an issue at all.

So speak for yourself RObert.

Suseonline, I was going to respond with links to research and logical argument but that seems like a waste.

It will be interesting to see how many of those critical of OTBs style take you to task for the nature of that post.

R0bert

Rubbish RObert.
You know I'm right, so there is nothing you can say.

I get sick of the whining men on this site blaming feminism, gold-digging women, ex-partners, female politicians, female academics, single mothers... in fact all women, for all their problems in life.

Anyone but the real problem...themselves.

I don't want to argue about this with all of them though, because doing that caused a vast number of female posters to leave this site, and I still find enough interesting discussions about other issues to keep me here.

If you think I am as bad as OTB, RObert, you should ignore me, like I do him.

"you should ignore me, like I do him." for the most part I do so. I posted to topic, avoided naming you in my reference to those holding the disgusting double standard of expecting mens choice to end at the sex act while supporting almost unlimited choice for women in regard to abortion.

Your tactics are very much like those which people complain about for OTB.

I don't have the time to go digging out references right now but the research I've seen and anecdotal evidence suggests that in my generation there was a strong tendency for women to marry up financially. Some claim that has reduced in those born more recently but the findings are mixed on that front.

It's not universal, few of those things are but there is enough of it around to give men a stronger incentive to make different career choices than those women make. That in itself will contribute towards the gender pay gap.

My main point is that for whatever truthnthere is in many of the issues feminists highlight there are social factors which contribute which are ignored or denied where the real progress could be made. The focus does not appear to be on fixing the issues, rather on blaming men alone for societies woes and on grabbing advantage for some women while leaving the real causes of the problems alone.

R0bert