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Why are we still struggling with gender equality? : Comments

By Conrad Liveris, published 5/3/2014

However, we face a growing gender pay gap and lack of political or economic will to really change this. We've been stagnant, and at times regressive, over the past twenty years.

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"Why are we still struggling with gender equality?"

Because its an imaginary boogeyman?

Because you're expecting the lives of millions of free individuals to match some kindergarten-level theory?

You claim a huge discrepancy, yet cite *no figures*.

What is the difference?
What is this calculation based on, annual income, hourly rates, same job in same industry or across industries/positions?

Of course, people who do different work are not going to get the same pay.
Women don't necessarily *want* to do the same positions or work in the same industries.
Not in equal numbers anyway.

To get completely equivalent results, you'd need the same number of men and women doing the same jobs for the same hours with the same amount of leave.
In what fantastic universe is this ever going to happen?!

And why don't we want quotas?
Well, if we support equality of opportunity, we don't want to be hypocrites.
And we if we support personal liberty, we don't want to be fascist dictators.

Suseonline "The truth is that there is still unequal pay for equal work/hours for women in some industries in this country"

Cite a single award that stipulates lower hourly rates for women.
Cite a single court case involving an employer who does this.

Why are you presuming all women who leave work when pregnant had "unplanned kiddies"?
As usual for the abortion fanatic, children cannot be wanted, they must be a mistake, a burden.
Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 6 March 2014 3:51:14 AM
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Shocadelic, you're spoiling a lovely warm n'fozzy dream.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 6 March 2014 6:29:58 AM
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Lovely to see the MRAs so active on this topic. I guess its a good warm up for IWD. Perhaps they would also like to add the additional furphies of more men dying on the job, men in combat, and men in the most dangerous jobs. These, like the gender pay gap, are real issues. And just like the gender pay gap they are issues created by men themselves. Maybe it's time to stop whining and get out there and do something about it like, I don't know, feminists and the sisterhood.
Posted by Carz, Thursday, 6 March 2014 7:37:54 AM
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Conrad
Symptom: gender inequality
Cause: a culture defined by "my penis is bigger then yours"
Explanation: above culture demands high testosterone
Result: men win more than women
Cultural impact: adolescent male culture of vacuous measuring
Solution: change the infantile culture
Futility: discussing the symptom, ignoring the cause

Required strategy blueprint:
Reveal, undermine, ridicule " my penis is bigger then yours culture

Warning: do not superimpose an artificial alternative as this will invite combativeness and testosterone will win, rather undermine and permit an organic alternative to form

Never forget: men and women are of one species, both are equally culpable. If you make it us v them, your playing the mans game.
Posted by YEBIGA, Thursday, 6 March 2014 9:35:44 AM
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There are plenty of opportunities for women in the high paying trades and semi-skilled.

Laying vinyl floor coverings brings in over $100k pa. It is $450 for visit under one hour (and the snake does all the work) to unblock a sewer pipe blocked as usual by feminine sanitary products and 'disposable' wipes. Plumbing and draining is all plastic and easy copper these days. Too easy to take shorter days or work by the quote, so the worker can decide the hours.

Where are the tradie women with their utes?

Electricians? A cool $100 per each to move to one side and reinstate a moveable stove, fridge (just unplug it and push) or dishwasher for the floor covering trades in the kitchen or installations to complete new kitchens.

Servicing trailer boats and outboard motors. There is very good money awaiting any woman who does the training. So easy to do. No takers though.

Cabinet making? Why don't women have a go. After all, in the TV shows there are women who present as renovators and there are short grabs of them using light tools. Strange how they all have a model's hands and manicured fingernails.

Much better pay than clerical jobs in the public services though.

What prevents women from taking up these opportunities? The feminists screen out anything but 'management' and 'directorships'? It is "Gimmie the top jobs or nothing"? "Gimmie that SAS job on the front line actually means some lets-pretend training for the photos (pack on the truck), then a leg-up to that Colonel's job, PRONTO! The discriminating feminists are materalistic middle class and it takes a high pay to buy those Audis and shoes and to swan off somewhere cool.

Honestly, these Grrls don't represent women, just themselves and their networking (read as favouritism) mates. How many of them did it take to destroy Don's Party the Democrats and what about the destruction of State and federal Labor? Yay for the Grrls of Emilys List. The Greens Protest Party next and Christine, Sarah Hyphen-Hyphen and the crazy Trotskyist are beavering away on that.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:59:48 AM
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Second last para should be 'materialistic'. True too!
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 6 March 2014 12:02:51 PM
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