stabilization theory..provides a much more..satisfactory explanation than does neo-Darwinian theory.

Hybrid infertility:..Reduction in the quality and/or number of gametes produced by a hybrid..(in comparison..with its parents..
Hybrid inviability:..Impairment..of a hybrid's ability..to survive (in comparison with its parents).

A frequently encountered explanation..of the pervasiveness of hybrid infertility.*suggests that natural selection..acts directly to increase..reproductive..*isolation...EDIT..

This process,..known as.."reinforcement",..supposedly occurs when the two somasets..come back into contact..("secondary..[f2/3..4/5th..100th?..contact").

At this stage,..natural selection.is said to favor those individuals that mate..with their own kind...Thus,.it is said,..reproductive isolation..*eventually becomes complete,..as hybrids*..become less viable and fertile.

Reinforcement,.however,..is controversial(Butlin 2005)..Even those who accept..the idea of reinforcement..would admit many biologists do not accept it...BECAUSE..Selection for infertile,..inviable offspring
is,..in fact,.a contradiction..in terms...only/overuled..by survival/of..fittest..

YET..[survivors..designed..advantageous adaption/BY SURVIVING]

natural selection..is a process favoring
traits..that help,.not hinder,..the..production of offspring...Indeed,..no explanation,..accounting in terms of natural selection,..for the general finding that hybrids..are typically of reduced fertility..is accepted by all biologists...[YET..OFFER BETTER SURVIVAL][HYBRED-VIGOR..PHYSIOLOGICAL ADVANTAGE..[BIPEDALISM?]

hybridism..[AS FAST..AS OPPORTUNISTIC/as disaster cometh]

An explicit presentation..of the D-M model..would require the introduction..of a number of technical concepts...But non-geneticists can simply ignore..such technicalities....EDIT..

The process..there described..produces two genetically distinct populations...Coyne and Orr say..it is.."entirely possible,"..if individuals from those two populations interbred,..that the resulting hybrids.."could be sterile"..[or rUN/RAMPANT..VIA..AN ADVANTAGE/THUS SURVIVE]

However,..there is really no reason..for us to expect such hybrids to be sterile...Since the D-M model..is supposed to explain a general phenomenon..(hybrid sterility),..it should identify a general causative mechanism.[EDITED]

The same reasoning..applies to the D-M model. True...It describes a process that could..produce sterile hybrids..But its proponents fail to explain..why we should expect it to do so.

If it were somehow true..that two distinct types gained an advantage by producing sterile offspring together,..then we would expect natural selection..to favor the production of sterile..We would therefore expect sterility..generally to be a trait of hybrids.

However,..the D-M model eschews selection;..and it specifies no other causative mechanism.Neo-Darwinians fail to explain how these additional genetic differences..would cause the production of sterile offspring with disrupted meiosis..and few viable gametes.

They also fail to explain..why we should expect..genetically distinct populations..to produce/hybrids..infertile..OR NOT.
http://www.macroevolution.net/hybrid-infertility.html

IF APE..IS ALL/UB..SO/BE-IT/SOWN
YE/REAPEST/THAT..YE SOW.

Dear OUG, (Johan),

Man did not walk with dinosaurs, nor view the transition of forerunner species emerging from the marine and/or aquatic environment onto the 'land'; Man could not have survived the catastrophe which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs; Man is said to be 'in God's image' - but which? Those who abide by the Golden Rule, or those who run amok and kill, maim, rape, torture, enslave, and destroy?

God would not have 'purposely' created such an unreliable creature as Man (even from some sense of 'play'), and, since God is infallible, and can not be known by Man, it is quite impossible for Man to be in His 'image' - excepting through a spurious interpretation by some that God is 'within' Man (per the 'soul'), though, given the general 'nature' of Man, very many must be devoid of a 'soul' and devoid of any concept/pretext of 'God' ('within' or otherwise).

God could not have 'created' ALL within 6 days (of any 'duration') - unless He created it 'piecemeal' over 4 billion years, a 'new' species here, wiping out a defunct species there, chucking in an ice-age here and there (to 'test' individual adaptability, or for 'what the heck' reasons). Such an active God, in a demonstrably 'near-godless' world?
'Creationism' is obviously a 'crock'.

All your machinations about hybrids and genetic theory/science DEMONSTRATE that species viability can only be assured through like-with-like fertilization, AND that new species development can ONLY be achieved through genetic mutation enabling resultant within-species retention and propagation of 'beneficial' physical/physiological 'adaptations' - with 'dominant' beneficial mutations eventually leading to new-species evolution (and subsequent inability to produce viable offspring from cross-fertilization - to maintain the essential 'integrity' of such new species).

So, why would God have fashioned genetic mutation as part and parcel of almost every species, if not to enable species' evolution? And, with survival of the fittest ('natural selection') as the consequent 'differentiating' mechanism to 'test' worthiness and to enable inherent 'adaptability' to changing circumstances?

I say again, if there is a God, species 'evolution' was and is His plan, not Man's.

SALTY..<<..Man did not walk with dinosaurs,>>
NO COMMENT..but
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=fossilized+shoe+print&

OK PERSONALLY I CANT SEE the shoe
BUT IF A SHOE..[200 MILLION Years old]..then who nows..WHAT THEY SAW

ONE SURE THING..NO MAN/NOR SCIENTIST..'SAW'..<<<<..nor view the transition of forerunner species emerging from the marine and/or aquatic environment onto the 'land';>>

as the CASE FOR THAT IS SLOPPY
ie all mammals descend from the fresh water frog..[name of bIG EGG IN GREEk/Latin..or some other taxonomic fib..see page 2
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v453/n7192/pdf/nature06936.pdf

<<..Man could not have survived the catastrophe which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs;>>

Clearly 7 families survived the flood
as FOR THE Science proof OF A METEOR/WHO IS TO KNOW THAT MAY HAVE BEEN LONG BEFORE[BUT I PERSONALLY FEEL THE TOWER OF BABBLE..or mosus when they had bunches of grapes it took TWO MEN To carry[who KNOWS WHAT THE FALLEN ANGELS DUN>

<<..Man is said to be..'in God's..image'-but which?>>
thin more that we are a reflection..of god..[his mirror image
regardless of SEX RACE OR beastly INCLINATION]..THE UNI-VERSE IS IN GODS IMAGE TOO..and it resembles AN Amoeba..or a nipple..[or a cell[a dark CENTER..in a CIRCLE OF AFFECT..YOU BARE TWO OF HIS FACES..ON YA BREAST[IN EVERy eye]..circles/WITHIN\CIRCLES.

<<..God would not have 'purposely' created such an unreliable creature as Man ..even from some sense of 'play'),>>

that's..opinion/not fact..BUT THE Truth is..god seeks to know/thyself[love thyself]..we seek to love THIS Image of self[as do the beasts]..but then you got those lovers who take even loving..that bit too far[but that infinite variable LOVE has some awsum fruits

<<..and, since God is infallible,>>

you just revealed he isnt..but yes its easier to assume infallibility LEST WE UPSET THE ALL LOVING ALL GOOD

<<..and can not be known by Man,>>
the bible advises we cannot look UPON HIS FAce directly
BUT WE CAN LOOK AT EACH-OTHERS FACE..And see our creator good under the flesh..sustaining the FLESH ITS living

[TRY SERIOUSLY LOOKING INTO SOMEONES EYES..and saY YOUR NOT FEELING GOD LOOKING RIGHT BACK[WITH LOVE GRATITUDE Confusion amusement pain..THERE IN FRONT OF YOU..seeing you..in fact..looking right bacK AT YOU..any living eYE WILL DO

SALTY/QUOTE..<<..that God..is..'within'/Man..(per.the 'soul'),>>

please..to clarify..first..in this life/*/man..HOUSES GODS LIVING SPIRIT..IN..our\FLESH/BLOOD BODY..TO ACHIEVE..OUR MANY/AND VARIED LOVES

AFTER/THE FLESH..DIES..[ADVANCED LIFE-FORMS..HAVE BUILT THEIR SOUL/BODY..[OR ASTRA-BODY]..OR SOUL ESSENCE..that/is oUR BODY..TILL WE CLEANS..OUR SOUL/FORM..TO REVEAL..OUR TRUE LIGHT body..[and gods light within-IT]..this..the soul/BODY..is..in the image..OF THE TRUE INNER BEING..WE ARE..

[IN HELL..MANY REVEAL/THEIR TRUE-FORM..IS BEASTLY..BUT WE CAN OVERCOME..OUR BASE NATURE..OR.EVEN RETURN..[RE-BIRTH]..IN THAT FORM..[THAT MEETS/OUR NEED]

<<>..very/many..must be devoid..of a..'soul'>>
i can seE..WHY SOME think so..BUT..THE SMALLEST THINGS.we do for other[KINDNESS]..HAVE SUCH/GREAT FRUITS..[sOME..CLOUD THEIR SOUL FORMS WITH ANGER/vengeful..AND HURTFUL Emotions...others clarify their/soul-aura MUCH MORE..EASY

YOU MAY/have heard..THAT DEMons..can 0nly..buy/your soul..[youR WORKS/DEEDS]..because your living-spirit/belongs..to god...<<..and devoid..of any..concept/pretext of 'God'..('within' or otherwise)>>..you REFUSE GODS-GRACE...

Effectively give-over
your soul/for dust..[unreality/miscreated/illusion]..[see..lamb island thread]

<<..God could/not have..'created'..ALL within 6 days..(of any 'duration')>>

GOD LIVES..ONE CONTINUAL/ETERNAL..'DAY'..[DAYS;..A primative CONCEPTS..MAN..CAN COMPREHEND\...[i see/the..'days thing]..as a measure..by which god..explains the 'changes'[FROM Darkness/INTO LIGHT..

FROM AETHER/LIQUID DEEP..INTO SOLID/Matter appearing..
dead matter..becoming living is..easy three days..[to record]..three changes..[periods]..days/millenia..who cares

please state..where the biBLE..SAYS WE ARE 7 DAys old
THE DAys of creation..that science measures..in billionths of a second..are changes..God calls 'DAYS]..whether IT..LASTED A BILLIONTH..OF A SECOND..TO 12/BILLION YEARS

<<>.unless..He created it..'piecemeal' over 4 billion years,>>

god dun all..his creation..in 6 days
since then..its been his..creation/intelligently modifying,,gods creation..as it wills..[every action//having its karma]

<<>>science DEMONSTRATE..that species/viability..canonly be assured through....like-with-like fertilization,>>..SURE..FINCHES BREED FINCHES/RATS BREED RATS..NO..cat EVER..BRED A fly..[EVOLUTION OF GENUS..IS THE LI

<<>>AND that/new species..development..can ONLY..be..achieved through genetic-mutation..>>

SADLY..THERE IS NO..mutation..that adds*the EXTRA needed/dna-MATERIAL.....unless there is..a....radical/random re-ASSORTMENT..OF NEW DNA..THAT RETAINS VIABILITY..[ITS..in the PAGES..Explained]

but..IF YOU SAY..[INSIST][..ERROR DUN IT..KNOW
THAT ONLY..VERY FEW..MUTATED/ERRORS ADD IMPROVEMENT./BY FAR MOST MUTATIONS..CAUSE Illness etc..[mutation is common[o..e in every 200 CELL DIVISIONS..HAS A MUTATION]..BUT VIA..HAVING DOUBLE STRANDS OF DNA..THEY GO Unnoticed...even/get..repaired.

you need..provide/the extra dna..where does\that..come from
but..please..its clear..you havnt read the info
http://www.christianforums.com/t7713309/

DNA-EXCHANGE..<<..enabling resultant within-species retention and propagation of 'beneficial' physical/physiological 'adaptations'>>
http://www.macroevolution.net/hybrid-infertility.html
ITS..SO MUCH MORE..THAN JUST DNA..THE right\stuff..needs be produced in..the right sequences..[like the platypus..has 10 sex chromosomes..to switch on..the Correct bio-STIMULI E/PROVISIONING..AT THE RIGHT/STAGES
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v453/n7192/pdf/nature06936.pdf

<<..with 'dominant'..beneficial mutations..eventually leading to new-species evolution>>

http://tolweb.org/Terrestrial_Vertebrates/14952

(AGAIN..GODS ONLY PLAN..IS be
the way/means..FOR WHATever WE WISH]

2:salty/passions..
*HYBRIDIZATION..nOT EVOLUTION.
http://www.macroevolution.net/definition-of-hybrid.html
THE/VERY..LATEST..'find'
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/files/2014/03/70117-1024x799.jpg
the..chiCKEN..FROM HELL..
[CASSOWARY/CROCODILE Cross..hybred]

'Chicken from Hell'..skeleton sheds light..on...A 250-kilogram 'chicken from hell'.with features similar to the cassowary is the
latest dinosaur..discovery by US scientists.. w
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2014/03/19/giant-chicken-from-hell-is-new-dinosaur-species/

i would say..look at THE DRAWINGS/CARTOONS..
..BUT AFTER..YOU SEEN THem//you believe..the spin..[SEEING/=\BELIEVING]

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/features/the-platypus-unravelled/

But the clue...[10 sex chromosomes..REveal/
I see..gods hand...in the little things..the mundane..common..AS MUCH AS..iN...THE RARE..unique..AND..'EXCLUSIVE'

INTRODUCTION:.A NEW..evolution-THEORY
http://www.macroevolution.net/table-of-contents.html
Why the author chose to create an alternative theory of evolution
http://www.macroevolution.net/introduction.html

1:..ON SPECIES
http://www.macroevolution.net/Definition-of-Species.html
This section discusses..some of the serious problems..biologists have had with defining species,..a word at the heart of modern evolutionary thought.

*1.0..Introduction...A brief explanation of why..the word species needs to be dealt with..before any real progress..can be made in evolutionary thought. http://www.macroevolution.net/Definition-of-Species.html

*thomas aquinas
1.1...On the origin..of the word species..Species....was originally a word used..by philosophers,..for whom..it had..a much clearer meaning than it has..for scientists today. http://www.macroevolution.net/species.html

*1.2..The natural order...An account of how..scientists inherited the term species..from the schoolmen..of the medieval era. http://www.macroevolution.net/natural-order.html

*1.3..Hybrids and immutability. Read how early naturalists thought of hybrid sterility as the essential factor maintaining the natural order. Read on http://www.macroevolution.net/hybrid-animals.html

*1.4..Carolus Linnaeus rejects creationism...Read how Linnaeus was the first...major naturalist to break..with the idea of immutability and how he proposed..one of the first evolutionary theories.
http://www.macroevolution.net/carolus-linnaeus.html

*1.5 Creationism versus hybridization...How creationists..responded to Linnaeus'..theory http://www.macroevolution.net/creationism.html

*1.6...Binomial nomenclature....An explanation.of what it means to be "treated..as a species." http://www.macroevolution.net/binomial-nomenclature-theory.html

*1.7...The "essence" criterion...John Locke's cogent critique..of "species." http://www.macroevolution.net/essentialism.html

*..1.8..Definitions of species...A discussion of the various concepts of "species." Read on http://www.macroevolution.net/definitions-of-species.html

* 1.9..Reproductive isolation:..A vague criterion..Why reproductive isolation..can never serve as a satisfactory basis..for defining species. http://www.macroevolution.net/reproductive-isolation.html

* 1.10..Species:..Resolving the problem...A simple way to resolve the species question...Read on http://www.macroevolution.net/species-classification.html

...WHY?..
mind conditioning../done\upon kids..
[propaganda..to subvert/state/SCIENCE..INTO GOD/PLACEBO.
Elysium..vs World War Z,..setting the agenda and mass mind control..

Ruth Hull..<<Movies and literature inspire..and program the masses to love,..to hate,..to believe disbelieve..to sin..and to spin..to protect or to kill.>>
http://globalpoliticalawakening.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/elysium-vs-world-war-z-setting-agenda.html

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=elysium+AGENDA+21

http://thecommonsenseshow.com/tag/agenda-21-2/page/3/
http://rss.infowars.com/20140320_Thu_Alex.mp3

ANYHOW I GOT TO THINKING..why do we need all this 'complicatED'..NAME CALLING
BUT to hide a lie..[my thinking was why cant the scxience call A FLEA A FLEA
BUT THEN THAT WOULD BECOME TOO CLEAR/THEY GOT NOTHING

like if a flea..bounces into a mosquito
THEIR taxonomy would look alike/but tyhe reality more cleaR/THE LIE MORE EASY SEEN THROUGH
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=plain+lanGUAGE+TREE+OF+LIFE&i

it woulD BE NICE TO NOT HAVE TO LOOK UP COMMON NAME 'TRE OF LIFE
BUT THEN Again im reminded..the bible got it first
NOT ONLY THE TREE OF LIFE..BUT THE TREE OK KNOWLEDGE..of good bad as well.

ITS JUST TOO NEAT
AND that those knowing its wrong..still remain mute
find mE A 'TRE OF LIFE''..IN PLAIN WORD..I wil show the theory is built on bubbles in the clay..ITS CALL a great idea..till you try to divide the first CLAY CELL..ITS LIKELY SAID BETTER THAN I COULd here

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message861599/pg1