i am-bio-gensus..thus is ambiogensus...refuted..
BUT LETS DO LOOK AT THE PROOF /RESEARCH
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=abiogenesis+evidence&

LETS IGNORE THAT..simply BEcause it..hasnt made life..
FROM NON LIFE..*refutes the concept..and examine[yet again]
the proof..
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=abiogenesis+evidence&

i see no reason to yet again peruse the illusion..not solution
thus would much prefer you simply name names..rather than me guessing
which lie YOU ACCEPT AS TRUE..but ;lets BE FAIR..

HERE IS A LINK..that refutes the concept
https://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/36/36_4/abiogenesis.html

please feel free to refute it here/or bits of it
pr whatever you feel is wrong/go ahead..make my day

im going to read it
can you refute it?

[i will bet you a big bottle of rum..IF..you can find more points i you can refute..or even..SIMPLY /disagree WITH/..THAN YOU CAN]

SO THERE..we saved a lot of reading
shaved it down to a creationist site chosen at random
we are both motivated to point out its errors.[im betting i find more errors thAN YOU]..so mu companion..go earn us a drink..looser pays/i cant be MORE FAIR THAN THAT.

I DO IT..NOT EVEN HAVING READ THE LINKS CONTENTS
thats how sure..I AM..IN my guides Whisperings..that alone are more discerning..AT WHAT a SCIENCE PROOF of concept really IS../I WILL AWAIT YOUR REPLIES/REBUTTALS..BECAUSE I LOVE SCIENCE..LITTLE knowing that love TOO..would lead me to god.

ANYHOW IM LISTENING TO ALEX JONES/TALKING OF THE REAL WORLD
knowing we goT THIS REALITY to cope with too..[i really cant see how you get through it all..without the sure knowing god will sort it out/in fact sorted it out way back in 1917..[see fatima reveaL]..BUT EVEN BEFORE THIS in the bible..[ye shall hear of wars]..

BUT LETS HEAR YOUR REBUTTAL OF
http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/36/36_4/abiogenesis.html
blooming sneaky buggers put in a S..[how slimy..to know that godless/atheists STOOP TO do that to creation sites][THATS ANOTHER SIGN SCIENCE DONT GOT NUTHIN

ANYHOW REFUTE..IF YOU CAN
[THAT S IN THE LINK..is a sign..please advise if it appears..in yOUR HEADER/THINK HOW GAINS FROM A DEAD LINK TO REBUTTAL..of

i ''am..:..bio genus''
cheers..[IT WILL BE MY FIRST..DRINK FOR YEARS]
but will yoU BE DRINKING OR ME?

"look extropian..if YOU SAY..YOU GOT SCIENCE PROOF
but you dont got even a single science proof/..you can replicate
THEN MATE..what do you have?..Faith some unknowable day..that some 'other'..will know/THAT'S NOT PROPER SCIENCE"

Witness OUG, and try, TRY to understand: Science is not about proof. Science is about a preponderance of evidence and probability that favours one interpretation of that evidence. You continue to create strawmen of science in order to knock them down. Your knowledge of the scientific method and the history of science is a dismal travesty of the actuality. YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT IS PROPER SCIENCE!

<<..What evidence have you.that your faith trumps science?>>

"you throw occams razor.as a proof/i say simplest...oc rule..is to allow that some unknown insane SCIENTIST..did it all.."

Once again, SCIENCE IS NOT ABOUT PROOF. Ockham's Razor is a useful guide only

<<>>You don't need to attack..or belittle science to do this.>>

"if you have THE RIGHT TO RAISE SCIENCE OVER GOD
I HAVE THE Right..to stick god..over your..MIS-conceptions..[of scienceS..OMNIPOTENCE]"

We are not concerned with our "rights" to do anything. I asked you to refrain from attacking science in providing convincing evidence for your god's existence and involvement. Obviously you are incapable of doing this. I have stated certain cases in favour of science without denigrating your faith. Your approach is limited to attacking science and expecting that your strawman arguments are sufficient as compelling evidence for your god. That will never, never succeed.

<<...Just lay down..the reasons..why a god is necessary..and the evidence..as to his presence.>>

"ambiogensus..is refuted..simply BEcause it..hasnt made life..FROM NON LIFE..*

Patience is a virtue is it not? A little knowledge of the history of science will demonstrate that time after time your god has been disposessed from the gaps that,like now, you are claiming exist in scientific knowledge. Pay attention: GAPS IN SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOUR GOD EXISTS. And you are attacking science against my request. If your only response is to do this then you demonstrate an inability to learn and expand your own knowledge

You're no longer interesting OUG. Yelling unsupported dogma, creating strawmen, disjointed neologisms and a pervasive dyslexia have extended my patience to breaking point.

It is not surprising that you have exhausted the patience of every interlocutor who has, from a desire to illuminate, tried to engage in intelligent communication with you.

I must record here that in my 20 years of experience of discussion groups going back to the early days of ICQ and MSN, I have never encountered such a monumental ignoramus as you. One came close in the late 1990s who variously described himself as Patrick, Werewolf and Folder Paper among others. He was a colleague of a cretin named Free Wheel. But you have soared to new heights of inanity and I have observed how conceit and smug self-approval have inured you to any logical, common sense rational approaches.

One would search a lifetime and never find a more suitable recommendation than you for selecting atheism as a philosophical basis for a world view. I find it highly satisfying that you count yourself in the ranks of theism. I never thought I would feel sympathy for theists.

You epitomise the object of Einstein's observation......"Only two things are infinite, the Cosmos and human stupidity and I'm not certain about the former."

Jonathan Swift, a man of keen insight, put it succinctly and eloquently......."You can't reason someone out of something they weren't reasoned into."

I have found more intellectual stimulation in "Duck Dynasty" and re-runs of "I Love Lucy".

,,<<..Science is about a preponderance of evidence and probability that favours one interpretation of that evidence.>>

RIGHT THERE/SEEMS TO BE WHERE your SELF deceived
SCIENCE FAVOURS FACT OVER FICTION..not one interpretation..over the other..[that sir is called creed]..and creed seeks only mindless obedience..to dead end creeds..[teaching what to think/rather than how TO THINK.]

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=what+is+science&
Science is the concerted human effort to understand,..or to understand better,..the history of the natural world..and how the natural world works,..with observable...repeatability

What is Science? - University of Georgia

Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and ...

www.sciencecouncil.org/definition&#8206;
Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge /and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

<<..You continue to create strawmen.of science in order to knock them down.>>

so stop quoting i love lucy etc at me
and put up some of 'your science'..strawmen..i will knock down for you[its only too clever..SAYING IM MAKING THEM..WHEN YOUR REFUSING TO SIMPLY OR NAME ANY..IT MIGHT BE AFFECTIVE DEBATING TECHNIQUE..BUT ITS DEFINITIVELY NOT SCIENCE.

IT SEEMS..your a better writer/massdebaiter..than scientist

<<..YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT IS PROPER SCIENCE!..>>
iT SEEMS NEITHER DO yOU....
BUT YOU GAVE UP EVEN TRYING..AFTER chukking at me the word..'A-BIO-GENUS'..you sir aint no bio genius..indeed have presented little 'science thinking at all..ie a writer/taking the 'science..ON FAITH

HERE IS TODAYS PROJECT..[FOR MY SCIENTIST WITHIN ME]
[its way over your limited comprehension..SO GO WATCH YOUR SITCOMS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoHhD8VnVek

the rest of your replies..seem to be in the main re-quotes of MINE

JOHannine
THANK YOU FOR YOUR Amusing..english lit and americana sit-come referances..but im more into true science..haVE A NICE LIFE.

The first thing to realize when attempting to understand the nature of Joe's Energy Cell is that many of the precepts and rules of conventional science do not apply.

http://educate-yourself.org/fe/fejoewatercell.shtml

This cell does not operate according to the conventional rules of physics. It's necessary to approach this material with an open mind and to be prepared to entertain novel ideas that often run contrary to conventional scientific thought. Essentially, Joe had discovered a unique and simple way to capture Orgone energy (explained later in this article). The Joe Energy Cell is NOT a hydrogen fuel cell. It's an Orgone Energy Accumulator in which water is acting as the medium which captures the orgone and allows it to be transduced into the engine.

Skepticism
Some people react with immediate disbelief when first confronted with information about the Joe Cell. Such individuals find skepticism a comfortable refuge. It's easy to be a skeptic. There are always those with flaccid minds who delude themselves onto thinking that scoffing at new ideas or theories that run counter to conventional wisdom is an affirmation of intellectual maturity and sophistication, but these individuals are too often intellectually lazy, hopelessly self satisfied and arrogant.

Almost without exception, a skeptic jumps to the simplistic conclusion that if he hasn't heard about it or if the new information opposes ideas which he has been taught in school, then the concept being offered must be invalid! Of course, a skeptic will never actually build the cell and determine through observation whether the cell functions as described. Skeptical sermons are usually delivered from the ease of an arm chair.

Rigidly obedient to established dogma,..skeptics routinely dismiss new or revolutionary concepts out of hand...The refusal to examine empirical evidence offered by hands-on experimentation is seen most often in skeptical professionals of the academic persuasion...Most physics professors are solidly married to their ego..and 'woe be' to anyone who attempts to question their consecrated,..anointed opinions of the universe.

My advice is not to waste your time..trying to convince skeptics or knuckle heads..married to conventional science

a step closer..to a bio..'evolution'..[MAYBE]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15995&page=0

BUT HERE IS THE PROBLEM
im not making your case.

Wilhelm Reich not only discovered the unique aspect of the aether called orgone energy he also discovered the tiny living particles that were the very building blocks of life itself.

Reich’s most suppressed discovery was Bions.
AS THEY FRIGHTENED..BUG PHARMA
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=BIONS&i

Searches related to BIONS

bions medical systems pvt ltd


bions ft

bions biogenesis


orgone bions

bions in topological string theory


bion experiments
http://www.orgonelab.org/seminar1.htm
anyhow..He called them Bions.

Bions are smaller than cells and simply appear as if by magic from nothing. They are fully animated and combine to form clusters. Almost no medical researchers will go near this, actually no one will. Except for the few true seekers.
The possibilities for BION research are so immense as to render all of our medical technology obsolete. If the very building blocks of life can be isolated and controlled via vibration, electricity, magnetism etc.. then everything from regrowing limbs to healing wounds over night will be possible.

Reich was suppressed in one of the most violent and outward manners in all history. His books were burned, he was jailed and beaten to death in prison. Why? Was it just because of his investigations into aetheric beings in the skies? or was it his work into Bions that threatened the Rockefeller controlled AMA? Some believe that the AMA was created specifically to suppress Reich’s work. His work into orgone was bad enough but his rediscovery of Bions was simply unforgivable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj7k88vCMYk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8dLMvzpdsYo