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Global warming update: hot with a lot of ice : Comments

By Anthony Cox, published 10/1/2014

Other measurements contradict the Bureau of Meteorology claim that 2013 was Australia's hottest yet.

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Global temperatures at the surface have been flat for at least 8 years and over 17 years depending on which temperature indice you look at:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/12/22/hadcrut4-is-from-venus-giss-is-from-mars-now-includes-november-data/#more-99765

Now given that the surface temperature is flat and SH is falling it is entirely consistent that there is NO THS. That is elementary, the evidence is plain.

Yet AGW theory has predicted increases in both temperature and SH and [therefore] a THS generated by AGW as Figure 9.1 showed.

The absence of a THS is indisputable evidence against AGW.

The article gives plain evidence about air and SST at the Antarctic.

In respect of the sheet ice no one has disputed that the Western Peninsula has lost ice. The WAP is a miniscule part of the Antarctica.

In addition that ice loss from the WAP is arguably not due to AGW:

http://phys.org/news196255601.html

This modern evidence against AGW being responsible for the WAP is supported by historical evidence which clearly shows greater melting in the past:

http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/38/7/635.abstract
Posted by cohenite, Friday, 10 January 2014 2:25:53 PM
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Have any of you experts compared the NASA satellite photos of the Antarctic and the Artic of December 2012 and December 2013.

As regards the BOM claims. The BOM is often wrong. It's failures to provide the Australian people with accurate forecasts to enable them to prepare and plan in the face of extreme and 'normal' weather events is woeful.

Answer these questions.
What was the strenght of cyclone Yazi when it crossed the Nth Qld coast?
Was it possible to predict the extent and area of the downpour that caused the flooding in Toowoomba, Grantham and Brisbane, when all those people were killed?
How many cyclones has the BOM predicted for this year?
How many did they predict for the last three summers and how many arrived?

Answer those correctly and you will soon understand how useless the BOM has become since it has been overrun by climate warming terrorists.
Posted by imajulianutter, Friday, 10 January 2014 4:47:43 PM
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As Australia is but a pawn of world wide weather forces any statistics limited to Australia are superfluous.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 10 January 2014 5:22:35 PM
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Another day and another anti-science article on OLO.
More fodder for the rubes and more funnies for the rest of us. You should try world news daily I'm sure runner and co post there to, maybe even write some of the "news" items.

While the vast majority of Australians know that if your taking advice from a lawyer you’re in a dark place.
But If you’re getting your science facts from one then you’re in a silly place.
Posted by cornonacob, Friday, 10 January 2014 6:37:33 PM
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Tony, get over it ... boring!
Posted by ozdoc, Friday, 10 January 2014 7:42:32 PM
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Boring? If you're anti science, don't comment on an article exposing false science.
Posted by Leo Dorfman, Friday, 10 January 2014 7:54:48 PM
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