Yuyutsu asks why there can be race libel when there can't be group libel. The difference embodies what's so wrong about racism - a libel that labels people, usually in a derogatory way and often in a self-hating way, or in a self-aggrandising way, on the basis of genetic accident of birth. That's what's wrong in saying "we" stole the natives' land or "the Americans" are responsible for slavery. It's also what's wrong about conflating "the Jews" with criminals who "make Aaliya" or claim to be "men born to rule". We Australians didn't introduce female franchise: those who did it are dead. I'm not proud to be Australian, just jolly thankful to be, thankful for those who had a right to be proud of their role in building Australian liberty and in defending it back when that's what soldiers did.

Our culture is our doing, our forebears are not.

amazing how quick we are to judge previous generations especially seen we have such a vile foul mouth generation who think they are so superior to those who laboured to give them freedoms.

Emperor Julian,
That's a reasonable outlook but the problem is that self styled Anti Racists aren't reasonable or sincere people, arguing with them is pointless, heck expecting them to read any supporting material for views contrary to their own is impossible.
The likes of Mr Wertheim are never going to let go of their allegories and historical revisionism, believe me you get the same pitiful level of discourse from educated Anti Semites on Stormfront.
From the same pool of freely available scientific information you get two completely contradictory viewpoints Philo Semitism and Anti Semitism, Holocaust Believers and Holocaust deniers, it's a literally pointless exercise to try and reason with any of them, I know, I've tried for nigh on eight years. Look at David Irving or Fritjof Meyer, I don't think they have too many supporters among either camp because they delve into shades of grey and propose numbers between zero and six million and ask who knew what and when?
It'd be great if both sides could move on and focus on the here and now but since they're dividing beneath two aspects of the same mythos we can only hope that as the events of the 20th century fade from living memory we'll get some peace.

......and that generation of ancestors who Emperor Julian despises and is so ashamed of was of course white, runner. Then Emperor Julian claims he is not a racist and racism is just awful.

Cuckoo. Cuckoo. Cuckoo.

I've tried without success to get at what Lego is on about. Where has he found "shame" about the previous generations who built Australian liberty and and gave their lives defending it - even "so despising" them - while consumed with gratitude and admiration for what the heroes of yesteryear did to uphold liberty and decency? My claim is merely that I have no right to take pride in it, it's their right not mine or that of anyone else who was not around to take a role.

Only racists would hold that anyone is entitled to take pride, or wear shame, for what other people did - never mind about their race or skin colour. The most we can do is admire and support and emulate actions and thoughts which seek liberation of human beings, and condemn thoughts and actions which promote or tolerate enslavement. And to admire or condemn thoughts and actions according to whether they are liberating or enslaving is to admire or condemn their actual authors as individuals, not as standard-bearers for this or that race.

Emperor Julian,
You be careful up on that fence young man! :)
The author has spoken "as a Jew" and he presents himself as a spokesperson for Australian Jewry and then makes assertions about White Australians supposedly to give the reader a context for the actions of long deceased members of his community.
There's no value in Whites being the bigger man and biting their tongues every time a person of another race has something to say, that's the typical baby boomer cowardice that's leading us down the same path to the failed multicultural experiments in Europe.
If Peter Wertheim is speaking as Jew, I'm replying as a White man, if he's presenting his information as a citizen, a humanitarian or something else then that's how he should be treated. If Mr Wertheim, as a Jew is speculating about the mindset of prior generations of my people I might as well indulge in some speculation of my own because as I've shown on many occasions facts are only part of Anti Racism insomuch as they might tend to support the body of it's narrative, which is a collection of myths and allegories.
It seems to be part of the nature of Australian White people that they retreat from serious discussions and aspire to neutrality, as you've done in two posts, there's nothing bad about inter racial discussions or even in rivalry between ethnic groups. I'm not an angry person, nor am I cynical or close minded,I'd be overjoyed if Mr Wertheim would give us a few paragraphs in reply to our comments, just don't bother trying to maintain decorum if he does.