Neither Venizelos nor any member of the Greek government has ever proposed the insulting name "Slavo-Albanian Macedonia. This is obviously false information intended to cause mischief. People are foolish if they want to believe this bit of nonsense.

The Greek proposal is "Upper Macedonia" or "New Macedonia" or some such qualifier. The Greeks accept they do not have a monopoly on the name Macedonia, but neither does the ROM have a monopoly of the name of a region which lies mostly in Greece.

The Greeks do not object to "Macedonian identity" or culture. They object to ROM's use of figures that have no historical, geographic or linguistic connection to the Republic of Macedonia, but, rather, are part of the Ancient Greek-speaking world.

Hi Alfred,

If the greeks do not object to the macedonian identity and culture, why do they not recognise them as a official minority in Agean Macedonia?? (today's Northern Greece). Why do they not allow public teaching of their macedonian mother tongue??

I'm not sure if you are aware, but Macedonia was divided 100 years under the bucharest treaty, of which 51% was partitioned to Greece, as part of the spoils of war. The macedonians were the indigineous people who inhabited this region for 1000's of years. They spoke macedonian, they identified as macedonian, their tradition and culture was macedonian.
Much like the aboriginals of Australia... For example if the dark skinned aboriginals inhabited macedonia and then were occupied by greece, could the greeks claim they are now greek? do they look greek?

My parents left Agean Macedonia in the 40's as did many other macedonians during the greek civil war. My parents were forced to talk greek/names changed to sound greek as part of the ethnic cleansing process, if they spoke macedonian they were punished by greek authority. Supporters of the greek lobby basically support the neo nazi party in greece who's ideal's are much like that of hitler's, in pursuing the extermination of the minorities in greece, including the hundred's of thousands of maceodonian's who still live in today's northern greece(i still have relatives there).

A big chunk of the artifacts of ancient macedonia lie in Agean macedonia (today's northern greece), although some are found in ROM . These belong to the indiginous macedonians of the land (the same blood relatives of the people of today's ROM), but the greeks now claim alexander the great is now greek due to these artifacts/evidence being geographically located in greece, due to macedonia's division in 1913. So if i stole your car, sure the car is now mine, but am i the rightful owner of it? No.

Anyway, ill leave you with this fact. HISTORY IS WRITTEN, AND THEN RE-WRITTEN BY THE VICTORS'..............

Also,

Alexander was bilingual, his first language was macedonian, as he was macedonian, but may have spoke some greek as a method of communicating with greeks. i.e. say im german and speak german as a first language, but also speak english.. does that now mean i am english and not german? DNA tests show evidence that the macedonians of ROM have a direct descent from alexander the great.

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-220.html

http://vimeo.com/58926054

Hi RJ Dole:

The only officially recognised minority in Greece is the "Muslim minority" of Pomaks and Turks. There are other minorities in Greece though they are not officially recognised. There are minorities in many countries, in the USA, in Canada, in Germany, in the UK, and many other countries, that do not have official recognition. Greece is no different in that respect.

The Bucharest Treaty did not "divide Macedonia." All the Bucharest Treaty did was recognise the military facts on the ground: which part of the Ottoman region had been conquered by the Serbs, Bulgarians and Greeks. The Bucharest Treaty merely agreed to the cessation of hostilities between these powers. Your "problem" is not the treaty. The "problem" is which power had won which territory through war.

The region of Macedonia under the Ottomans was inhabited by slavic-speakers, Turks, Greek-speakers, Albanians and others. The Slavic-speakers were divided by national identities of Bulgarians and Serbs. A "Macedonian" national consciousness began to emerge in writings during the very late 19th century especially by some writers who had previously (and intermittently) considered themselves Bulgarians.

As you know, Slavic-speaking partisans had fought with guerillas of the Greek Communist party during the civil war in order to separate the Greek region of Macedonia and create an "Autonomous Republic." The Greek victors in the civil war expelled many of these fighters and their families while many of these fighters fled in fear of reprisals. The Greeks can be as guilty of injustice as anyone else, and if anyone has legal legal grievances against the Greek state, there are many European and international courts in which they can seek restitution.

The Ancient, Greek-speaking kingdom of Macedonia, through the conquests of Alexander, spread and established Greek culture and language throughout the eastern Mediterranean of that time and established the Hellenistic Age is is a major period of scholarly history. You can access literally thousands of text books and university classes on that period easily.

Thank you for your reply.

@ RJ DOLE:

The history of the ancient world, including the long period of the ancient Greeks, is universally recognised and studied in countries across the world from Canada to China, from Rowanda to Russia. It is based on recognised scholarship and not written by "victors" or losers. There are constant discoveries and interpretations of subtlety but these depend on the acknowledged rules and merits of established scholarship.

Oh, jeeeez, not more multicultural baggage.

Before Alexander, the Ancient Greeks regarded the Macedonians as non-Greek barbarians, everyone loves a winner.