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Chinese territorial assertiveness: more than Beijing can ultimately handle? : Comments

By Liang Nah, published 6/12/2013

China's actions in the South China Sea might eventually lead to the undoing of Beijing’s policy of territorial expansion.

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Sorry, the name of the article was:

"Defeated By The Taliban, Washington Decides To Take On Russia And China"

By Paul Craig Roberts
Posted by David G, Monday, 9 December 2013 8:43:49 AM
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For those who haven't cotton-on to it yet. DavidG's other nom de plume is Arjay.

Either that, or we have the first clear cut evidence that someones been dabbling at human cloning.
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 9 December 2013 9:06:17 AM
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David,

For the sake of this thread, i.e. Chinese aggression against its neighbours, the US, or the passing of Mr Mandela, or the shooting in the face of 16-year-old Malala Yousafzai by your friends in Pakistan, or new cures for cancer, or whether Joe Blow kicks his dog, are irrelevant - the issue is what is going on in the East and South China Seas.

How to resolve such disputes peacefully - that should be the concern. China's actions have seriously destabilised that situation, and the suspicion is that China is ultimately out to claim all of the East and South China Seas as its imperial territory. Yes ? No ?

That's the game going on at the moment, although on the next paddock may well be one involving US perfidy and ambition - or where Joe Blow kicks his dog, for that matter. Start up another thread if you want to talk about the evil US.

Someone mentioned China and socialism in the same sentence, rather inappropriately, I thought. We have now had a hundred years of fill-blown 'socialism', 140 years if you want to go back to the Paris Commune of March 1871, which Marx despaired over. That's a lot of failed experiments since then, David - has anything worked as it was planned ? And please don't say 'No, because of the evil actions of the US.' What would you expect, they're capitalists ? And, after all, socialism (except perhaps the new Chinese version) declares its open intention to tear it down. As an ex-socialist, I have to conclude that socialism has failed because of its own internal flaws. And reality surely has to trump ideology ?

Perhaps you are partly right in that this dispute is peripherally a struggle between two imperialisms. A pox on both of them.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 9 December 2013 9:25:21 AM
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You finally cut to the chase in your last sentence, Joe.

The U.S. has enriched itself by bullying and killing and destroying and bribing and corrupting across the world. That it now is trying to stop China following in its footsteps demonstrates the gross hypocrisy of the Americans.

The world cannot afford a nuclear war. That is the truth that every nation in the world has to accept. Once that truth is accepted, the next step is to prevent it ever happening.

That can only be achieved by the destruction of all nuclear weapons and the standing down of all armies and the destruction of all weaponry and those companies who manufacture weapons.

The Caveman period has to come to an end. We have to use what intelligence we have to set up a new political and economic system, one that does not lavishly reward the warmongers and the greedy but rewards equality and justice and cooperation and peace.

The choice is stark. Change yourselves or become extinct!
Posted by David G, Monday, 9 December 2013 5:15:31 PM
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Perhaps I did too, David - when are you going to get there ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 9 December 2013 5:25:09 PM
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And what economic system is that, David G?
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 9 December 2013 6:04:41 PM
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