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Chinese territorial assertiveness: more than Beijing can ultimately handle? : Comments

By Liang Nah, published 6/12/2013

China's actions in the South China Sea might eventually lead to the undoing of Beijing’s policy of territorial expansion.

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Joe, in your honest way you are trying to address the situation. But the situation is not simply about a regional argument over some islands in the South-East Asian region but about the U.S trying to contain China, strangle it if possible. Why is it doing this? The U.S. is desperately afraid that it is slipping off the top perch in the same way that Russia did. What an irony, eh?

That the U.S. flew fighter jets into the zone then followed it up with Boeing submarine hunters, though deliberately provocative, is just madness. What if the Chinese had used retaliatory force? But then China is a thousand times smarter than America which thinks that dropping bombs on other nations is the only way to address geo-political conflicts and grab scarce resources.

Then the world knows that the Cuban Crisis showed the world that the U.S. is power-mad, is prepared to take chances, ones that could end our world.

Joe, we have to become more aware of the fascist American agenda which is global domination. We have to look at the U.S. as it has become not as it once was. To know what its agenda is can be clearly seen by its actions, not by its duplicitous rhetoric. You don’t need 1,000 military bases if peace is your motive!

Joe, there will be nuclear conflict between the U.S. and China and America will initiate it before China gets too powerful. Backing America in this situation is crazy. It is hated by too many nations in the world. And if you followed ICH, you’d know that America is riven with problems: social, economic, political, etc. Nuclear war will produce no winners, Joe, but try and convince the Yanks of that!

P.S. LEGO, King of the Cavemen. I’m sorry that you are victim of your own indoctrination. It’s not my fault! After the nuclear holocaust, I might meet you in a cave somewhere. You’ll be the one waving still waving the Stars and Stripes!
Posted by David G, Sunday, 8 December 2013 10:29:52 AM
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David G said;
Reject hate. Show you have a brain!

Does that include hatred of the US ?
Gawd, what a dh.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 8 December 2013 10:47:00 AM
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As far as I know there are no proven oil deposits in the South China
Sea but there are reports suggesting there is oil there.
However, China notwithstanding the opinion of others that peak oil is
not real, does believe peak oil is real and has been for years buying
up any oil field it could lay hands on.
China, justifiably, is terrified of peak oil & coal.

Not content with claiming everyone else's islands just to get the
200 NM economic zone around them, they want to claim the whole Sth China Sea.

The "Nine Dotted Sth China Sea Claim" was submitted to the UN in 2009.
It was rejected by the Philippines and presumably others.
This area runs down the west coast of the Philippines.
It is total arrogance.

If this is not Imperialism on a massive scale tell me what is ?
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 8 December 2013 11:11:33 AM
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A rather naïve take on a new player in the superpower stakes David G. If you don't like the USA, the don't buy a single thing manufactured or owned by a US company, starting from today!

The Chinese are fully cognisent (sic) of their actions! its called expansionism, you might not like it. This is up to you. Perhaps as you feel threatened, go live in China and leave our shores. no am not being xenophobic, racist or anything else for that matter other than being pragmatic on your behalf.

The centralist Chinese Govt wants to spread its wings, or influence across the South Pacific. Bit like India in the cricket, they have more people, more money so they want to rule the show except the show is garbage! In China's case, what they want, we don't.
Posted by very curious, Sunday, 8 December 2013 11:08:40 PM
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LEGO, Baaaaaaaaaaaaazzzz, Very Curious, I'm sorry that you don't get it. Most Australians don't. They, like you, are caught in a 1945 time-warp.

The problem is that the U.S. has changed since ww2. Didn't you notice? They put together a massive army. They started attacking other countries whose values and policies were different to theirs. They hid their aggressive imperialism behind duplicitous slogans about standing for human rights and freedoms and democracy while they supported all manner of despots and supplied arms to everyone.

And now, with their military bases spread across the world and their armies and navies ensconced in every sky and ocean, they are close to achieving global domination.

But the unbelievable happened. They ran out of money same as Russia did. And they over-extended their military reach, And people, at least some, woke up to what they were doing while they were on their endless-war, killing-millions spree. And China began to get its act into gear.

So we heard about 'pivots' and soon Australia, poisoned by our political sycophants, joined other countries and soon found its soil polluted by the American Military who are using us just like they use most other countries in the world to advance their self-interests.

The inevitable nuclear conflict between the U.S. and China will occur unless the U.S. goes bankrupt first. China is fighting to achieve its potential while the U.S. tries desperately to crush it.

We know from Nagasaki and the Cuban Missile Crisis the depths that America will go to to achieve its selfish ambitions.

The world has a clear choice: bring the U.S. into line or face nuclear devastation that will render life on Earth impossible.

So crawl out of your cave and leave your flat-earth beliefs behind and work to save our world from the most dangerous ROGUE nation on Earth: AMERICA!

P.S. Perhaps being incarcerated without trial in a cage or water-boarded appeals to you?
Posted by David G, Monday, 9 December 2013 7:02:27 AM
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"The diminishment of Russia as a powerful state is critical to Washington’s agenda for world hegemony. If Russia can be rendered impotent, Washington’s only concern is China.

The Obama regime’s “Pivot to Asia” announced Washington’s plan to surround China with naval and air bases and to interject Washington into every dispute that China has with Asian neighbors. China has responded to Washington’s provocation by expanding its air space, an action that Washington calls destabilizing when in fact it is Washington that is destabilizing the region.

China is unlikely to be intimidated, but could undermine itself if its economic reform opens China’s economy to western manipulation. Once China frees its currency and embraces “free markets,” Washington can manipulate China’s currency and drive China’s currency into volatility that discourages its use as a rival to the dollar."

These few words were written by Paul Craig Roberts a day ago and the article they came from can be located on ICH.

PCR is an American who has held very senior positions in the American Government.

His website can be found at http://paulcraigroberts.org
Posted by David G, Monday, 9 December 2013 8:39:45 AM
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