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By David Singer, published 18/11/2013Jewish settlement in the West Bank is not illegal, unlawful or forbidden by law - having been legally sanctioned and expressly enshrined in international law.
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Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 11:51:20 AM
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Pete, love the clarity of the point you have made.
Like the U.S., Israel believes in: 'It's our way or the highway!' Posted by David G, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 3:36:53 PM
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Thanks David
David G that is. Pete Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 4:27:07 PM
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" the international community unanimously endorsed the right of the Jewish people to reconstitute the Jewish National Home in Palestine in 1920 and again in 1947."
As I wrote: "One of the first things to know about Zionists: Like the Nazis, they always lie." The British created a "Mandate for Palestine" under which Palestine was "terra nullius" and the inhabitants were mere fauna. Par for the course for the British as our Aborigines knew to their cost. British colonial officials are not, of course, "the international community", not even the British community. Equating them is just another Zionist lie, as is the libellous equating of "the Jews" to Zionist criminals. A fairly comprehensible timeline, written unfortunately in only a crude approximation to English, is at http://histclo.com/essay/war/ip/man/pal-man.htm Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 7:12:13 PM
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#Emperor Julian
The 51 member countries of the League of Nations who unanimously endorsed the right of the Jewish people to reconstitute the Jewish National Home in Palestine and who conferred the Mandate for Palestine on Great Britain to bring this to fruition were: Albania, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, British India, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Italy, Japan, Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes, Latvia, Liberia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Persia, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Republic of China, Romania, Siam, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Union of South Africa, United Kingdom, Uruguay, and Venezuela. The Mandate provided that the civil and religious rights of the "non-Jewish communities" in Palestine were not to be prejudiced. Why was there no mention of the " indigenous Palestinians"? Was the international community that stupid that they could not recogniize an indigenous community going back centuries in time that had inhabited Palestine like the Aborigines in Australia.had inhabited Australia? The answer is given in the very link you posted: "Muslims west of the Jordan generally desired to be part of the kingdom proclaimed by the Syrian Natiinsal Congress to be ruled by Emir Feisal. There was no real sence of Palestinian nationality at the time. Many saw thmselves as southern Syrians. A young anti-Semitic Amin al-Husayni strongly advocated becoming part of the new Arab Syrian kingdom. With the French occupatiion and ouster of Emir Feisal (July 1920), this option was no longer available. Then the idea of a Palestinian entity began to take hold. Amin al-Husayni began to emerge as a Palestinian leader, in part by assainating rivals with more moderate outlooks" "No sense of Palestinian nationality at the time" - get it? Wanted to be part of the new Arab Syrian Kingdom - get it? Your Jew-hatred has clearly blinded your ability to understand the international consensus that sanctioned and awarded the Jews the legal right to self determination in 0.01% of conquered Ottoman Empire whilst the Arabs were awarded self determination in the remaining 99.99%. Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 10:03:23 PM
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Hi David Singer
This bringing of 90-100 year old Balfour etc history into the argument won't help your cause much. Its like claiming Australia-Britain should still be at war with the Kaiser's Germany and the Ottoman Empire due to the events of 1914. Equally would someone test an Israeli audience with the intricacies of Australia's 100 year old history? Perhaps a standard Australian audience may just want to know the forest rather than the trees. For example: Is it true that the overall trend is that Israel's neighbours have tended to marginalise the Palestinians in a virtually racist kind of way in order to maintain the political heat on Israel? Isn't it true that Arab oil money, from undeserving absolute monarchies like Saudi Arabia, are funding Palestinian militancy? Equally haven't key countries (like the US, France and UK) influenced by the Jewish diaspora and Israeli foreign relations provided finance and military hardware that have maintained (for better or worse) the Israeli side of the conflict for decades? Regards Pete Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 9:55:44 AM
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Basically Israel's message is "support us or else we'll blow up the Region."