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John Kerry destined for political scrapheap : Comments

By David Singer, published 18/11/2013

Jewish settlement in the West Bank is not illegal, unlawful or forbidden by law - having been legally sanctioned and expressly enshrined in international law.

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David G they are called psychopaths and Israel has more than it's fair share.The ordinary Israeli people remain oppressed by their own Govt and it is not their fault.

Israel has done a deal with Saudi Arabia to attack Iran and draw the USA into WW3.I doubt that Obama will fall for it, although General Martin Dempsey said that the military is ready to fight. Just exactly who is uncertain. It was Dempsey who advised Obama against an attack on Syria.

Perhaps David Singer the Israeli elites need to re-think their aggression since Russia, USA and many countries on this planet are tired of their aggression and deception.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 18 November 2013 5:40:31 PM
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It would appear the Mr. Kerry needs to brush up on his history and try to get a handle on his job. He's almost as embarrassing as our previous unlamented foreign minister in relation to Middle eastern politics. Another interesting article.
Posted by Prompete, Monday, 18 November 2013 7:09:21 PM
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From the comments of Prompete and Singer we see the power of the Zionists. They are threatening the end of a political career of anyone who deviates from their agenda.

This is article is more a message to our politicians to tow the line or suffer political demise. Call this democracy or oppression?
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 18 November 2013 8:56:12 PM
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Mr Singer. You may believe that I agree with you but nay, it is merely a Baldrician 'cunning plan' of mine to ensure my local member (Jamie Briggs) adheres to my policy wish list or else!... yes, I know it is the lowest form of wit....
Posted by Prompete, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 7:05:33 AM
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jeremy

Thank you for quoting article 6 which makes clear that:
1. close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes was to be encouraged. Please note that Jews were not restricted from buying private lands owned by Arabs and settling on that land - which in fact occurred. Jews lived in the West Bank and Gaza from 1927-1948 until they were dispossessed in the 1948 War.

2. the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced. Please note there is no mention of any group called the "Palestinians" or even the "Palestinian Arabs". Israel's High Court of Justice is available for any person claiming to be prejudiced. Indeed the Court has made orders in favour of Arab plaintiffs on many occasions.

Can you point to one instance where land owned by other people in the West Bank has been "confiscated" without payment of compensation - a process called "resumption" anywhere else in the world?

Are you aware that Jews are excluded from settling anywhere in Area A of the West Bank which is under the total administrative control of the PLO?

Are you aware that Arabs selling their land in the West Bank to Jews face death and have been murdered in many cases?

Resolution 181 was never accepted by the Arabs. Being a non-binding resolution it has no legal effect.

The provisions of article 6 of the Mandate subsist in 2013 because of article 80 of the UN Charter.

#David G

You apparently cannot comprehend that the international community unanimously endorsed the right of the Jewish people to reconstitute the Jewish National Home in Palestine in 1920 and again in 1947.

Without that endorsement and international guarantee the Jews to quote you would have been "in the local lockup within five minutes and in a psychiatric ward within the hour."

The Arabs have never accepted the international community's decision - and neither have you.

Jew-hatred and unending violence and conflict between Arabs and Jews for the last 90 years has been the result.
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 10:18:38 AM
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#plantaganet

Calling me the "Zionist ambassador in Australia" does you no credit.

Attack the message - not the messenger.

The United Nations refuses to address the legal binding effect of the Mandate for Palestine and article 80 of the UN Charter which deal specifically with the West Bank and Gaza. Until they do - no progress will be possible in ending the 130 years old Jewish-Arab conflict.

#Arjay

You state:

"The ordinary Israeli people remain oppressed by their own Govt and it is not their fault."

Are you saying there are indeed Zionists=Jews who :

1.Russia, USA and many countries on this planet do not hold guilty of aggression and deception?

2.Do not threaten the end of a political career of anyone who deviates from their agenda?

3.Are not psychopaths?

4. Who do not send a message to our politicians to tow the line or suffer political demise?

5. Who do not claim they can drop in and out of history whenever they feel like it laying claim to anywhere their sandaled feet have trod and bombing anyone who says otherwise?

How do you sort out the goodies from the baddies or is it easier to lump them altogether and just get rid of all of them - as Emperor Julian and David G are proposing?

Israel - unlike Hamas and the PLO - have elections every three years where the people choose who should represent them. Certainly the Palestinian Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank are oppressed - no vote for the last 7 years. Does that concern you?

Have you got any better idea for getting people to get rid of an oppressive government?

Would you care to comment on the subject matter of my article - Is US Secretary of State Kerry destined for the political scrapheap because he appears hellbent on tearing up the guarantees given to the Jewish people by many former Presidents over the last 95 years?
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 10:29:42 AM
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