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Climate change agnosticism, John Howard and some inconvenient truths : Comments

By Chas Keys, published 11/11/2013

For people of Howard's generation this scenario will not have to be faced, but if it occurs it may have severe impacts during the lifetimes of some people who are now with us.

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LEGO, while not mutually exclusive - you (like runner, cohenite, One Under God, and others here on OLO) conflate and confuse religion with science.
Posted by ozdoc, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 2:53:52 PM
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What I am saying, Ozdoc, is that I find it strange over the fact that people like yourself are totally apathetic about the Muslim colonisation of your own country, even though the evidence is clear that it is accelerating and the consequences for western democracy will be catastrophic, yet go into hysterics over the concept of human induced climate change, even though the scientific jury is still out.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 14 November 2013 6:21:32 AM
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Not apathetic at all LEGO.

You may not comprehend the article by Chas Keys but it has got nothing to do with Muslim colonisation, despite how much you want it to be.

LEGO, you can rant and rave as much as you want, but changing the goal posts won't work with me.
Posted by ozdoc, Thursday, 14 November 2013 8:12:33 AM
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"Changing the goal posts"

"Bait and switch"

"Red Herrings"

Tactics employed by 'fake sceptics'

I'm sure others could elaborate.
Posted by ozdoc, Thursday, 14 November 2013 9:40:08 AM
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Here's something....

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/11/global-warming-since-1997-underestimated-by-half/

"A new study by British and Canadian researchers shows that the global temperature rise of the past 15 years has been greatly underestimated. The reason is the data gaps in the weather station network, especially in the Arctic. If you fill these data gaps using satellite measurements, the warming trend is more than doubled in the widely used HadCRUT4 data, and the much-discussed “warming pause” has virtually disappeared."
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 14 November 2013 4:15:50 PM
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@Poirot,

Here's something even more interesting --and tell!

So now, Poirot, you say the records/readings had been indicating a stalling in the warming trend over the last 15 years but new, more recent records show there was no such hiatus, it was an error/oversight.

But here's the rub!

A couple of months back when asked to confirm there was a hiatus,you refused to acknowledge it: you ducked, you weaved, you did everything to avoid owning up to the possibility that the trend might have petered out.

It should be pretty clear to all and sundry it aint about "the science" it's about spruik AGW --what ever it takes,ay!
Posted by SPQR, Thursday, 14 November 2013 5:09:49 PM
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