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The myth of the mandate : Comments
By Ian Robinson, published 7/11/2013In the first place only 45% voted for the Coalition, which could be interpreted as 55% not wanting their policies.
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Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 9 November 2013 3:15:43 PM
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P,
I know you want to put your fingers in your ears and pretend that Indonesia didn't take back the illegals from 2 boats, but it is a matter of record. Living in the labor La La land where history is constantly re written, you would like to pretend that Labor MPs are not constantly appearing before the court for corruption, that the school halls, pink batts weren't a complete stuff up, but they are and were. Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 9 November 2013 5:18:13 PM
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Well, SM, it would be a jolly good thing if the govt would be up front with Australians instead of trying to suppress all sorts of things from us.
The reason they cloaked everything under the guise of "operational matters" was initially to cover up anything that made their "stop the boats" look inadequate. So we're left with a situation where obviously cooperation between Indonesia and Australia is testy and no detailed information. From the SMH article: "At least two boatloads of asylum seekers have been returned to Indonesia after being rescued by Australian ships since the election of the Abbott government. In both cases, the boats were sinking. In Friday's case, Indonesia maintained there was no danger to life, even though the boat's engine had apparently stopped." So were these people in Indonesia's territorial waters, in international waters, or in Australia's territorial waters? What's the detail regarding Indonesia's willingness to accept boats according to where they are intercepted and what condition the boat is in? We don't know because Morrison won't tell us anything. Too clever by half. As for the rest of your rant, I'm not going to continue with a tit for tat - plainly a pointless exercise. Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 9 November 2013 6:39:28 PM
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Here you go,SM,
Shall we rely on the Jakarta Post once more - because our govt prefers to keep us in the dark? http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/11/09/ri-oz-maritime-standoff.html "Agus Barnas, a spokesman for the Office of the Coordinating Political, Legal, and Security Affairs Minister, said the government’s policy was that Indonesia should no longer accept asylum seekers from Australia. Out of six asylum seeker boats rescued by Australian vessels recently, Indonesia declined to receive the last three requests for transfer, which happened between September and November, Agus said. He explained that there was no agreement with Australia on the issue. “Foreign ministers from both countries discussed the issue in Bali [today] and there has been no progress,” he told The Jakarta Post over the phone on Friday." Of course, you may think differently...but with no "concrete" info forthcoming from Australia's govt...well? Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 9 November 2013 7:39:11 PM
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It never fails to amuse me of just how near sighted these die hard labor supporter are.
What I mean is their constant bagging of the VERY NEW LNP governments 'stop the boats' policy, when in reallity, the only reason they (LNP) are trying to stop the boats In The first place, is due to the shear incompetence of successive labor governments that blew the boat numbers out of the water, pardon the pun. Another issue they fail to accept, is that not only did they aid in the wasted billions, with their unconditional support for their failed party, but they also fail to recognize that the LNP has to waste yet more millions/billions, in an attempt to fix something that quite simply wasn't broken. The best the likes of 'P' can come up with, is to remind us how much the LNP is borrowing, yet he/she fails to accept, or at least acknowledge, that labors HUGE DEBT still has to be serviced, and will continue to be for many years, if not decades to follow. Although he/she is lost in time, at least many of the sheep have left the flock. Time to move on 'P', you're a dying breed. Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 9 November 2013 8:23:05 PM
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P,
Firstly, Your link confirms that Indonesia has already taken asylum seekers from Australian boats, and given the Indonesian elections and the spying allegations, it is not unreasonable to some political posturing. Notably, this will be the first illegals to reach Aus in 3 weeks, which compared to more than a boat a day under labor shows that the coalition's plan is working whereas Labor just talks. Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 10 November 2013 6:44:34 AM
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"...and there was certainly a tacit understanding on which the Indonesians have backtracked...."
I love it how you make it up as you go along....you know that do you?
No you don't.
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JkJ,
No retraction?
Okay.....