But Mark,

we already know who backs the SPA and what's left of the SPP.

NumbersUSA

How much does foreign hire pay to attack Australia's immigration system?

Amazing the claptrap and personal insults allowed under cover of pseudonyms. Perhaps if posts were made in the real name of the respondent, and confined to facts about the argument, people wouldn't write so much uninformed rubbish to waste other people's time in wading through so much trash to find the odd nuggets of gold.
Fact 1: Carbon dioxide is essential to life on Planet Earth
Fact 2: It is a trace gas which is insignificant in the other factors which control the climate of this planet.
Fact 3: No tax or other attempt to regulate this important gas will have any significant effect on the climate.
Fact 4: Any taxes imposed will seriously affect the prosperity needed to build defences against flood, fire, famine, drought, flood, plague, real pollution, storm, earthquake, volcanic eruption, asteroid/meteor impact.
Fact 5: The climate has always changed under the influence of solar cycles, volcanic/earthquake activity, and impact from the odd errant asteroid or meteor.
Fact 6: Henry's Law, the latent heat of evaporation, the reflectivity of cloud cover and water vapour in the atmosphere, and underwater volcanic activity which controls the temperature of the oceans and hence the amount of CO2 on the atmosphere, and solar cycles are the controllers of climate. Those who pretend otherwise are the real deniers.

I welcome any refutation of what I believe to be the facts of the matter, but under your real name please.

John McRobert,

Following on in the same vein of obvious expertise, we shouldn't leave out our noble PM's observation regarding the issue of carbon pricing:

"It's a so-called market in the non-delivery of an invisible substance to no-one."

A bit like the Prime Minister himself.....he's full of invisible substance.

Hercule Poirot

Malcolm/Paddy King

Sorry to disappoint you but SPA just organised the highly successful Fenner Conference on Environment on behalf of the Academy of Science called "Population, Resources and climate Change - implications for Australia's near future" . SPA is very mindful of the fact that carrying capacity is affected by resource scarcity and climate change and if you refer to newsletters from the last two or three years you will see constant reference to other matters such as climate change. The Academy of Science seemed satisfied with SPA's scientific and environmental credentials, even if you are not.

As for being supported by NumbersUSA, where's the evidence? It's nonsense.

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