Le Page, a new record for the number of statements in a comment which are complete rubbish; none of your assertions have a shred of truth about them; wind and solar cannot and will not, ever, be able to supply power in any meaningful sense for purposes of a modern society.

Pop, your faith in the IPCC is as touching as it is utterly ridiculous; "The IPCC are the people that do the research; they are the ones that know. There are too many of them to lie and get away with it. They are the world's top climate scientists. We must take heed of their warnings." That's insane.

It is pointless attempting to converse with people like you.

Dear Cohenite

Yes, it's impossible to communicate with you because you're not up to date with the scientific literature on climate change and what's happening in renewable energy. Subscribe to the daily emails from http://reneweconomy.com.au/ and you'll get information on where solar and wind are at the moment. It's very encouraging.

"It is pointless attempting to converse with people like you."

Then why do you continue to take up bandwidth with all of your rubbish. Give up, no one is listening to you.. From now on please ignore my posts then I will not have to waste my energy with you.

Further to my original article those who are not ideologically averse to having an open mind on the facts might care to look at the Lateline program as under. Ian Dunlop, a former senior resources executive and John Howard advisor who is seeking a seat on the BHP Billiton board says if the company fails to plan for climate change it could lead to the ultimate destruction of the organisastion.
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3889681.htm
In this segment, Ian repeats (as he did at the Fenner conference) that a 4 degree warmer world is one of one billion people, not seven billion. His position is strongly supported in the program by several large investors in Australia and the US as well as a spokeperson from an international climate change think tank. All these sources are in line with my original article.
John

Robert LePage what are these subsidies that keep being trotted out for coal fired power stations? My memory was that Joh Bjelke Peteresen ran Queensland on the revenue from the coal trains that were State owned. I am puzzled, please enlighten me?

JBowyer:
here is a start, take your pick.

http://sydneypeakoil.com/downloads/CR_2003_paper.pdf
http://www.acfonline.org.au/be-informed/climate-change/fossil-fuel-subsidies
http://www.acfonline.org.au/news-media/releases/australia-spends-11-billion-more-encouraging-pollution-cleaning-it
http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/03/03/our-carbon-addict-tax-system-is-stronger-than-a-carbon-price/
http://www.greenlivingpedia.org/Government_subsidies_for_fossil_fuel_use_in_Australia