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Doctors punished for helping pregnant women : Comments

By Terri Kelleher, published 22/10/2013

Dr Mark Hobart, a Melbourne GP, is being investigated by the Medical Board of Victoria for allegedly refusing to refer a couple for an abortion of their healthy 19-week unborn baby, simply because she was a girl.

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I agree with rhosty and random guy on this. Those that say that because something is legal it must be right, and therefore no one should complain, would have done well killing Jews in Nazi Germany. I prefer to look at the actual morals involved rather than the law. And those of you who think sex selection abortion is wrong but abortion for the sake of convenience is ok should also check their moral compass. While in the past legal abortion may have been justifiable, these justification no longer hold true in modern Australia. Where once an unmarried mother would have been ostracized and perhaps struggled to raise a child, this is no longer the case. I think we will look back in fifty years with a sense of horror at what we have been doing this past few decades. Just as we look back at slavery, treatment of women, aboriginal policy etc.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 2:35:24 PM
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George, an obstetrician is not needed for abortions.
The GP who did not want to deal with a patient requesting an abortion may not feel comfortable referring them to a gynaecological surgeon for the procedure, but should be able to refer them to another GP who will do this.

It seems to be mainly male posters who are against choice re abortions.
I guess that's fine for them because they will never be in the position of needing an abortion. No-one has the right to FORCE any woman to continue with a pregnancy she does not want.

Random guy seems to forget the fathers of these potential abortions. Certainly it would ensure there were far less unwanted pregnancies if all these guys wore condoms if they didn't want babies, regardless of the contraception(or not) taken by their sexual partner?

Rhys Jones, how, exactly, would you go about ensuring women did not abort themselves, if there was no legal, safe abortions available?
Would you tie them to a bed until they gave birth?
And if they did try, would we pop them all in jail?
How about the daddies?
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 3:02:20 PM
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'A dilemma made worse by moron do-gooders interfering but not offering support. '
Individual

the usual garbage by the death culture crowd. Ever heard of adoption. Plenty of people waiting. at least try and be a bit honest.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 4:59:47 PM
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Runner, unfortunately adoption requires that the woman wanting an abortion is then forced to go through with a pregnancy and labour to produce a baby ready for adoption.

I am all for adoption if neither of the parents want to keep the baby, but are not willing to have an abortion, but how would you force unwilling women to go through pregnancy and birth?
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 5:43:26 PM
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Suseonline,

Thanks, but I am still confused

>>George, an obstetrician is not needed for abortions.<<

But pregnancy is needed! Maybe I confused gynecologist with obstetrician, but is it really the case in Australia (I mean cities, not the outback) that a pregnant woman would not normally be in (or referred to) the care of a gynecologist/obstetrician during her pregnancy, irrespective of what she thinks about abortion (many think of it only after health/genetic risks are revealed to them by a specialist).

Somebody here hinted at that, and I was adamant that also in Australia gynecologists/obstetricians, and not GPs, look after a pregnant woman especially if an operation (of whatever kind and for whatever reasons) is involved

>>The GP who did not want … should be able to refer them to another GP who will do this.<<

I don’t understand why would/should a GP have to refer the patient to another GP. When I was in Melbourne I was happy with my GP, but if not I could have freely changed him without needing any referral. Why cannot the woman simply go to another GP if she dislikes the one she has?
Posted by George, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 8:11:59 PM
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George,
You are quite right. The patient if she does not like what the first Dr says, she can walk out and go down the road, or to the next town and in many cases the very same day see another Dr. She can indeed see many many drs until she gets one who's opinion she likes. In many cases this will not cost her a cent.
i think a major point in the article is that the patient did not complain about the dr at all. It was the equivalent of the medical board that took action without any complaint at all. You need to understand the AHPRA ( the medical board) will always take the side against the dr, no matter what the dr says, no matter how much the patient lies. They will often not even question the patients story.
Posted by ozzie, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 9:47:38 PM
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