Susie in case you have not noticed this is not Nazi Germany where the Jews were not considered human and slaugthered (just like we do the unborn). I have as much right to an opinion as you do. How is it your business to comment on this anymore than mine? Even you should be smart enough to know that just because its legal does not make it right. I take it you feel its ok to murder a late term pregnancy baby because its male rather than male.

The difference Runner is that I am commenting on your comment, as I know it isn't my place to say whether a woman should ask for or have an abortion or not.

It is her body, and her choice.
I doubt I could have an abortion myself, but then I have never been in that situation.

I'm not discussing murder, I'm discussing legal abortion, which is the subject of this thread.

I do agree that not all laws are right, but the right to have access to abortion is a correct law, and one that will never change.

Being born a girl is not a medical condition?
Sadly, parents can use ultra sound to find out the sex of the baby.
Perhaps we should withdraw that facility in every case, but particularly in those cultures, who routinely seriously undervalue girl children.
If these parents don't want their girl child, there are plenty of childless couples who do!
There are doctors with very strong religious scruples, who refuse to supply an abortion on anything except bona fide medical grounds!
The parents in this case had other options, like a less moral doctor?
And we've all heard of one or two, who's practice consists almost entirely of terminations, proscribing powerful painkillers, writing (dodgy) work certificates, imbibing lots of booze, and demanding rather large cash fees (on top of the medicare payment?) for relatively simple medical procedures?
No names no pack drill!
It's about time had an irrevocable bill off rights, one of which is the right to withdraw/withhold your service/skills/employment, if in supplying any of the aforementioned conflicts with your religious beliefs/moral values!
Rhrosty.

'I do agree that not all laws are right, but the right to have access to abortion is a correct law, and one that will never change. '

Susie

You obviously have not read the end of the book. Your word is very fallible, God's is not. The feminist might be having their little finger wag for a short period of time but it won't last.

I don't agree that any baby is in any way part of the woman's body. The fact is, it is another person, with its own little mind, personality, life force and within just a few weeks, a beating human heart.
And any termination that stills a beating heart for no good medical reason, I believe, remains murder.
If it is not murder, perhaps we should simply allow reluctant mothers to simply drive a spike into the breast/crush the head of the inconvenient newborn.
Its virtually the same procedure.
The only difference is, one procedure takes place in the womb, and for that reason alone, is somehow sanctioned?
And plenty of courageous single mums without means, are choosing not to go down this path, even though this might well limit their career pathway and options.
Simply put, it takes two and a rather specific act to make a baby, even an unwanted one.
However, non consenting mums, (rape, incest etc!) ought to retain the right to automatically terminate the pregnancy, inside the period, before a human heart starts to beat!
And there are things like the pill, compulsory condoms and even the morning after pill, that prevents ovulation for the time any semen remains viable!
Who knows what potential a child may have?
Albo, was raised by a single mum, and he could conceivably become our next Labor PM?
The girl this couple are trying to ex-terminate, may be the next Einstein, and find a viable pathway/stable wormhole, that leads mankind to the stars?
Who can say with any surety, that this could never ever be just so, or what potential is being routinely snuffed out, by the INCONVENIENT thousands daily?
Rhrosty.

Runner, I doubt your invisible god in the sky has ever said anything about abortions to anyone...given he/she has never spoken to any human.
Only humans have said what they feel about abortion.

Rhosty and Runner, why do you think abortion was ever made legal in Australia in the first place? It is because the parliamentarians of the day (all MEN) wisely agreed that it was a woman's right to say what happens to her body.

No -one can say that the baby isn't part of the woman's body until it breaks away from the placenta at birth.
No-one has the right to FORCE any woman to continue with a pregnancy she does not want.

How, exactly, would you two go about ensuring women did not abort themselves, if there was no legal, safe abortions available?
Would you tie them to a bed until they gave birth? Maybe you would.

You would obviously be happy with women living back in the 'good 'ol days ' , when women dangerously aborted themselves or went to illegal abortionists and died in their droves.

Yes,it isn't good when some people (mum AND dad) would like to choose the sex of their child, for non-medical reasons, but making all abortions illegal won't stop that.

Doctors can already decide not to treat patients if they don't want to, eg refusing to do circumcisions on boys just for religious reasons, as long as they give them a referral to another doctor or clinic.
I don't see any problem with that.