All I can say to some of you is "stay out of other peoples' lives". If you don't like abortion then take on the responsibilities. Many young womens' lives have been ruined by pregnancy & many children had terrible childhood because of unwanted pregnancy. A dilemma made worse by moron do-gooders interfering but not offering support. Are those morons as vocal in supporting young mothers as they are in front of abortion clinics ? Young children living in poverty only got one mention thus far when their plight was predicted to end in 1992 but the only thing this promise achieved was a political victory based on a terrible lie.

Suseonline,

I seem to remember you are a nurse, so please explain how does a GP "refer for abortion"? I thought every pregnant woman has to have an obstetrician to look after her (well, this is the case here, in Germany). I would think the GP would refer her to the obstetrician of her choice who decides what “treatment” she needs. Or can she be forced to be treated during her pregnancy by an obstetrician she does not like, (for whatever reasons, possibly unrelated to abortion)?

Years ago in Melbourne my GP referred me to a terrible urologist, so I came back, suggested somebody else, and I got the referral. And here in Germany, my GP referred me to an orthopedist because I had complaints, not because he thought I needed a hip replacement. That decision was made by the orthopedist not the GP!

Can you clarify for me, how a GP can refer “for an abortion” and not just to an obstetrician of the woman’s choice, who then (not the GP) decides what could/should be done?

Much and all as I am fully pro-choice, I believe that conscientious objection is an important democratic right.

I don't see why abortion law cannot be amended to allow doctors the right to follow their conscience. In practice, it wouldn't be any big deal. A doctor really feels strongly about this, they could be allowed to put a sign in the waiting room (next to the no-smoking sign?) or on their brochures and ads to state that they run a 'pro-life' practice or similar wording. And as for patients wanting an abortion, they would have the advantage of knowing upfront where a doctor stands on this.

Killarney, " and ads to state that they run a 'pro-life' practice or similar wording"

You mean something like, "We don't discriminate against girls"?

Another, "We don't practise genocide against girls".

Or should that be "gendercide"?

For the helpful abortionist,

"Your designer baby did't turn out? We can help you!"
- Medicare cards a speciality

I am wondering what mum does where she is expecting twins but horror of horrors, one of them seems to lack the little teapot spout.
- would there be a half-price deal?

I've got a question.

Is it lawful for a person to escape out of prison, if they were not guilty of the crime? or Is it appropriate to issue apologies to the stolen generation or similar, if it was the law in the past that they be taken?

I just worry when people have the attitude that the laws today are the right laws and that all the past were wrong, or vice versa.

As far as abortion goes, will we, in 50-200 years time, be expecting our government to apologize for the deaths that occurred? Maybe not, since the people who would receive them never lived in the first place, I suppose.

As for the argument that it is the womans body. She chose to have sex. She must live with the consequences. If I choose to kill someone I have made my choice, I no longer have a choice in what my consequence will be. Don't want a child? Don't have sex.