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'travel rorts' : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 11/10/2013

If I had advice for the Prime Minister, it might be that he point out to his team the dreadful cost to the Labor Party of the Peter Slipper business, the Craig Thomson business, and even the Julia Gillard business.

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Fair enough, individual.

Here's Abbott's for that period:

http://www.finance.gov.au/publications/parliamentarians-reporting/docs/T28/ABBOTT_Tony.pdf

Here's Gillard's:

http://www.finance.gov.au/publications/parliamentarians-reporting/docs/T28/GILLARD_Julia.pdf

While perusing the figures, you should take into account that Gillard was Prime Minister at the time and undertook various Ministerial overseas trips ($420,410.67).

Abbott made one official visit preceding Jan in this period($728.30)

If we deduct Prime Ministerial official overseas expenses entitlements, Abbott's entitlements outstrip the Prime Minister's by a long shot.

Adding both columns in each itemised expenses.

Gillards adds up to ..... $670,877.22

Abbott's adds up to ..... $590,003.43

Concentrating on the column 1 Jan to 30 June and subtracting Gillard's official overseas' travel as Prime Minister (remember Abbott had none from Jan to June 30)..Gillard's expenses come in at $250,466.55

So for corresponding periods 1 Jan to June 30(minus official overseas travel)

Abbott: $590,003.43

Gillard $250,466.55

....Of course, if you wish to do your own research:

http://www.finance.gov.au/publications/parliamentarians-reporting/
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 13 October 2013 10:46:25 AM
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P,

Once again you are being disingenuous, you exclude Juliar's "official" business, but include all of Abbott's.

The left whingers again have to manipulate the data to justify their lies.

What about Juliar's jaunts in the jet for private business?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 13 October 2013 11:52:04 AM
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Sorry, SM?

"Once again you are being disingenuous, you exclude Juliar's "official" business, but include all of Abbott's."

I excluded Gillard's official overseas travel expenses.

Which for 1 Jan to 30 June were $420,410.67

Abbott's, for the same period was $0.00

If Abbott had had significant official overseas travel expenses, I would have deducted them - he didn't.

That most of Gillard's expenses are attributable to official overseas business was my point.

Which goes to the crux of my point - that for someone who spouted he wished to "stop the waste", he appeared quite happy to indulge himself and his office.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 13 October 2013 12:22:10 PM
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P,

Of course from Juliar's budget you have conveniently forgotten the about $1m for the military jet or the chauffeur driven PM car.

Remember, meeting with constituents, is considered official business for opposition leaders.

What about the money Mark Dreyfus claimed for accommodation in Canberra whilst skiing at Perisher. That sounds like fraud.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 13 October 2013 12:51:24 PM
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Poirot,
I won't click on your links because each link simply negates the real question & only serves to prolong pointless point scoring. Call it rorts call it waste call it corruption call it whatever you like. The point is that our money is being wasted. If Abbott or any other politician is rorting then it must be exposed. My other point is that when our money is being wasted who tries to cover the forts ? Those who cover must be expelled if they do not attempt to expose.
Then there is the question of which politicians are wasting more ? Abbott or Rudd/Gillard ? You'll find the latter cost us a hell of a lot more than Abbott thus far. I will not excuse Abbott if indeed he is rorting . It could simply be a set-up like the children overboard by fanatic ALP supporters and, you are one. I find it rather odd that you so easily produce links to denounce Abbott but you were quite slow, in fact you failed to produce links on Rudd/Gillard/ALP rorts.
Having said that I denounce strongly any Coalition people who rort & if I had my way I would expel them from public office unlike Labor who view corruption & incompetence a prerequisite for a political career.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 13 October 2013 12:56:42 PM
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SM,

"Remember, meeting with constituents, is considered official business for opposition leaders."

Yeah, and swanning round the country appearing in cycling events for self-promotional purposes - what's that?...

(Abbott: "It was a marginal seat.")

Lol!

individual,

Suffice to say, that my point is the blatant hypocrisy of the Coalition and their cheer squad here and elsewhere - who have strutted around for yonks, holier-than-thou, pontificating on the subject of their scruples - "stopping the waste", etc...

When all along, they've been merrily rorting away for weddings, parties - anything.....

Hypocrites
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 13 October 2013 8:54:22 PM
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