by arguing "they do it too".
mikk,
first of all I did not even hint at that, I did say earlier "Of course politicians should be kicked out if found submitting fraudulent claims." I didn't hear you say bureaucrats like teachers making fraudulent claims should be kicked out.
As for your link re Abbott's expenses, yes I find them way out of order yet I did bring up PM pay increases in a thread some time back when it jumped from Howard's 300 Grand to Rudd's 500 grand in just six years. Again none of you came back with a reply despite being asked to comment. Regarding our heads stuck where the sun don't shine, you're confusing us with left-wing academics & bureaucrats.

Poirot,
"Stop the waste", they said.... And they did ! Gillard & Rudd are no longer there.

individual,

$12.1 billion in borrowings since 9 September.

A further 2.6 billion slated for next week.

http://www.aofm.gov.au/content/upcoming_tender_notice.asp

Gullible, aren't you

Just on Don's advice for Abbott.

"The Slipper Business...would that be the one where Ashby, Doane and Brough worked in concert for political purposes? The one which was thrown out of court by Rares J as an abuse of process?

Or the one where Slipper was "anonymously" reported to the AFP for $900 before the Minchin Protocol could be applied?

How does $900 stack up against Mr Abbott's efforts?

"The Thomson business"...an update on civil proceedings.

The former Fair Work Australia - now the Fair Work Commission - have been pursuing Thomson in court now for what now seems like an eternity about civil matters.

These civil claims started out, many may remember, at a headline grabbing figure of over $500,000. This figure has steadily dropped as things like facts and evidence have been taken into account and the figure now is well and truly under $30,000. Although ancient history, publications like The Australian still like to portray the old $500,000 figure as fact despite it being utter fiction....The Fair Work Commission has today requested in court to settle the case through a mediator in a bid to reach a confidential agreement between themselves and Thomson."

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/jacksonville-60-fair-work-commission-case-against-thomson-collapses/

Poirot,
your links show some interesting figures but they're literally pointless unless you provide a split screen with LNP/ALP figures over corresponding periods.

Payment of Parliamentary entitlements from from 1 Jan to 30 June 2011...

Julia Gillard $209,282.07

Tony Abbott $508,455.26

There ya go for starters individual.

Discuss.
Although I bet you just spin, misdirect and try to change the subject.

If this is how "frugal" rorting rabbott is as opposition leader how much will he rip us off as Prime Minister?

Let's face it, Abbott has been gaming the system bigtime for decades. And his reward? The sheeple elected him as their Prime Minister!

"Ah, everything, ah, I do, ah, must be calm and meas...surd, ...calm and meas...surded, ah say! Without haste or rush...or precon...ah, preconditional!"

This must make Australians even dumber than the Yanks who are still trying to work out why you can't spend more than you have.

Yet, Tony 'have rorts - will travel' Abbott attacked Slipper and Thompson mercilessly as I recall.

Politicians! Yuk!



It's called hypocrisy!

There are MPs and Senators from all sides who operate in an ethic-free zone when it comes to 'entitlements', greed and lack of morality occur across the political spectrum. Take the practice of putting down car travel as being from 'suburbs' to 'suburbs'. They can't pretend they don't know where they are (the driver will always know) so the only reasonable assumption is that they don't want us to know. Yet I heard a politician last year saying on TV that this was perfectly reasonable because they all did it. Any car claim that includes the word 'suburb' should be immediately rejected. The problem is that the shysters set their own rules. Take the so-called Minchin solution/protocol - you can claim whatever dodgy thing you like but will never be prosecuted for trying to defraud the Commonwealth as long as you pay it back if challenged. Peter Slipper is only being prosecuted, as I understand it, is because it is alleged he tried to conceal where he had actually been. Before then he was famous for his eye-wateringly high level of accepted claims.