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A lode of real action : Comments

By Kado Muir, Mitch . and Peter Watts, published 7/10/2013

As the dust starts to settle and Australia reflects on the outcomes of the recent federal election, many Aboriginal people have growing concerns over Tony Abbott’s new Indigenous Advisory Council.

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It's a bit early to start having concerns or worse, actually expressing them!
We need to judge on actual results, rather than an almost endless plethora of possibly completely unfounded fears; or indeed, the patent political posturing and or manipulation, camouflaged by many of them?
Fair go!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 7 October 2013 10:22:24 AM
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Tiny, little straw man there, boys ! Uranium mining is a minuscule part of the mining sector: iron, gas and coal are far bigger players.

And it's difficult to drag anybody up from 'poverty' if they're sitting on their backside, with mining ventures all around them.

Everybody, including Aboriginal people, have choices. Aboriginal people are as intelligent and capable as anybody else and they certainly have more opportunities than thirty or forty years ago - there are currently around thirty four thousand (34,000) Indigenous university graduates all over Australia, with record enrolments - so please don't give us any more excuses.

And as Rhosty suggests, let's wait and see how 'dictatorial' this new Committee will be. Abbott won the election, and that gave him a mandate. Get used to it, if you don't want them as government, don't take their money. We can always vote them out in three years.

Joe Lane
www.firstsources.info
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 7 October 2013 10:34:04 AM
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Looks like a few of the boys are getting worried the river of gold might be diverted into a new course, & just might be out of reach of their out held hands.

Stop worrying fellers, you are pretty smart blokes, I'm sure you'll come up with a way to get your share.

Hell even many of the Russian communists managed to get back on the gravy train, so I'm sure you'll manage.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 7 October 2013 1:40:35 PM
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With Tony, you get a load of old cobblers rather than a lode of real action.

Ask yourself, why is he a protege of John Howard? Sometimes I wonder if he's a progeny of our 'John'.

But at least Howard was smart, bit like a snake, really.

With Tony...well, time will tell. The suppository blunder gives a bit of a clue!
Posted by David G, Monday, 7 October 2013 2:07:52 PM
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no thoughts./.at this time
am waiting to see..if this is a conversation..or what

<<..We all want to make things better for our people,
but there is a real danger in talking about the interests of mining and the need for change in Aboriginal Australia as though they are the same thing.>>

lets link them..together
make the systemwork..properly

<<./.It doesn’t have to be one or the other...We three
do not*..believe that mining is always..in the best interest of our families,./.the long term health of the country, or will stop the suicides, alcohol, abuse, violence, or raise the level of education or health services.>>

absolutly..its criminal

but what alternatives
[a slave..must first want to be free]
just cause any invader says so..dont mean that it must be so
look at lamb island..sovereign people have sovereign rights as well as duty

kings act like kings..not serfs

<<If mining meant these things, then the Aboriginal communities of the Pilbara would have a very different set of social indicators than the current ones.>>

one in five dead before 5 yeaRS OLD..
SPEAKS ABUSE/NEGLECT..GENOCIDE..COLINISATION

<<The resource sector does have a role..*and a responsibility>>.

absolutly..especially in afrika..working for 1 dollar perday
to cart their own wealth..away..the same scum..doing the same thieving

know them by their works

<<..to improve outcomes in areas where it operates, but government must meet their responsibility to provide the roads, schools, health services and other infrastructure that people in cities take for granted.>>

staffed by ab0's..[ab-origonal]
not whitefella..working with cocco-nuts..pretending to be chiefs

[WE DONT GOT CHIEFS..we work..via consensus..not some flipping king telling us to reap/plunder..others totum..DUTIES..into extinction

<<..Basic citizenship entitlements..hard won by our predecessors following the historic 1967 referendum – should never be tied to or traded around proximity and access to a mineral deposit.>>

but i can make..*my mob rich[compared to africa
then..i too..can lord it up..like a lord../

come-on..after the first bribe..
the faulse pride is gone..yet the guilt will live on
but heck put it on the expense claim..when they need a mob photo..or want black-faces..for some color..

you cant win..using their law
their money..their system..build your own
Posted by one under god, Monday, 7 October 2013 3:27:22 PM
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<<If mining meant these things, then the Aboriginal communities of the Pilbara would have a very different set of social indicators than the current ones.>>

You know, if I was younger and I lived in a small country town, and a range of mining companies started exploring and then setting up their operations all around, with all manner of infrastructural and subsidiary projects going on, from railways, to shops, to schools, to road-works, and god know what else, I would try, and iI would have time to get the skills, to go for one of the many jobs, more or less in the field of my choice, which would become available.

Pilbara spectators. That's their CHOICE.

OUG,

At the last Census, Indigenous infant mortality (i.e. under 12 months) was 7.2 per thousand births. Deaths between the ages of one and five would probably not be any higher, but even if there were twice as many, very unlikely, it would still be barely 22 per thousand.

Incidentally, in the year of the last Census, there were 2558 Indigenous deaths and 12,528 Indigenous births, roughly 200 deaths for every thousand births. Is that what you meant ?

Work by consensus ? I'm not so sure :) In the S.A. Protector's letters, he gets a request from some Aboriginal blokes to have their own lot of Netting Twine, so they can make their own nets. He comments that Aboriginal people don't seem to be able to work together.

Keep firing !

Joe
www.firstsources.info
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 7 October 2013 3:56:32 PM
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