The solutions to these and many other problems are not here, but in Lebanon!
No matter where in the world one travels, one cannot breed success, if one takes the same flawed mindset with one!
If the Lebanese people could or would simply set aside the traditional and all too often misplaced enmity; replace all that garbage, with a truth and reconciliation strategy/commission; they could set about rebuilding Lebanon. Once described a the Paris of the Middle East, and a very prosperous place to live in or visit.
As the Paris of the Middle East, it had a thriving tourist industry and a vibrant flourishing economy, and little if any evidence of endemic poverty. Which so marks that country today!
A tragedy further compounded, by the decision of some Lebanese, to involve themselves in Syria's conflict, and in so doing, create even more eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, traditional enmity!
Tourists are not going to visit a war torn country, rendered asunder, by completely mad or insane, religious rivalry!
If their God could speak directly to them, he would likely ask, who gave you permission to kill in my name!? And, enough already!
The real question here is, why wouldn't those desperate people listen to the sage advice, of their Aussie Relatives?
Rhrosty.

Economic Invaders.

This is apparently why they boarded the boat:
http://www.news.com.au/national-news/lebanese-asylum-boat-victims-duped-by-people-smugglers/story-fncynjr2-1226730258110

Once again , it's all Australia's fault .

We didn't give people in Lebanon , Yemen or Jordan enough money to stay away.

When they decide to enter Australia illegally , again its our fault . These people watch Al Jezzera the KNOW the risks and about Manus Island.. its been widely broadcast on their News

But It's still our fault. The mere fact that these people are travelling all the way to Australia instead of using the well worn Illegal Immigration Track to Europe shows that Australia has become an easy Mark.

Now, THAT, is our fault !

In Lebanon it would be a crime to have false documents especially a passport, they would have to know that. BUT they were prepared to break the law to come here.

It would be my belief that a lot of the 50,000 who Labor rolled out the red carpet for were the same, simply put ECONOMIC INVADERS.

The sooner they deport them the better, maybe then the Government will have enough money to look after there own citizens FIRST.

To me they were not duped they were just too greedy and ignored all the stories they would have heard about sinking boats.

Quote "promised a safe “ship” to Australia" if they believed that they were also gullible.

The three causes for poverty and "hopelessness" in Lebanon, Joseph Wakim, is Islam, multiculturalism and overpopulation, none of which we in Australia wish to import.

We Australians, and western people in general, feel flattered that so many people from third world countries see our society as paradise compared to their own. But why don't they simply emulate us instead of just jumping on the nearest boat and heading for Aust4ralia?

What really galls Australians is that when many of them come here, they demand state supported social separation, the right to continue their medieval practices, and then scream that 'Those who insult Islam must be beheaded."

Sorry mate. I am an Australian, and in the same way that Lebanese, Indians, Jews and Italians wish to form ethnic enclaves in Australia because they wish to live amongst their own people, I feel no different to them. I am an Australia and I wish to live among my own people to. People with whom I feel kinship and among whom I feel safe. That s why I live in my own country and I would prefer you and your fellow ethnics to live in yours.

Another problem you might have addressed (but didn't) was the appalling behaviour exhibited by so many Lebanese in Sydney who are noted for their high incidence of violent criminal behaviour and welfare dependency. While ever so many Lebanese nationals in Australia continue to behave in such an unacceptable way way, you can blame Australians for not wanting any more of them to come here.

It is not Australia's fault, it is your own fault, we had no say in why you were going to risk your life by trying to enter Australia illegally, it is time all illegal immigrants blamed themselves for the predicament they find themselves in on these boats with the loss of their many lives including children. STOP BLAMING US

Here we go again with the usual nonsense from the likes of Philip. It is not an offence to enter Australia without a visa or passport to claim refugee status and has never been.

All the babble about smugglers preying on them is also nonsense, the people we saw interviewed were articulate and educated and made up their own minds.

The Indonesian crew seem to have saved many lives by going back, storms are usually the cause of the deaths at sea but in international waters when we don't rescue people calling for help it is our fault because safety of lives at sea is paramount, not arbitrary.

Marilyn Shepherd - It appears you did not get the information that they were traveling on FALSE SYRIAN PASSPORTS.

When you have an arguable point please come back but you usual comments are just like that about they have no substance.

TO quote you "All the babble about smugglers preying on them is also nonsense, the people we saw interviewed were articulate and educated and made up their own minds."

So they made up there own minds to break to law and travel on false documents, I REST MY CASE they are criminals.

Therefore they do not stand the good character test.

Thank you for that assessment, now you are supporting criminals.

Need I say more.

<<Here we go again....>>

Yeap, great stuff PhilipS, keep it up!

"We need to stop the causes of the people inside the boats."

Islam? Tribalism? Greed?
Good luck "stopping" that.

"our prime minister... realise that his honourable mandate for humanity"

Ah, no such thing.
His sole mandate is the self-interest of our nation.
A responsibility no prime minister in living memory has taken seriously.

"nothing to lose and everything to gain"

And we have nothing to gain and everything to lose, throwing millions down the bottomless pit of "aid" and welcoming even more chip-on-the-shoulder aliens, who secretly or not-so-secretly hate our guts.

<< Australia shame on you, that your new rulers have reached the stage of killing people --Ali Khoder, Lebanese Sheikh, speaking of the recent drownings just off the coast of Java(as quoted on SBS)>>

This is straight out of the text book that brings you the line that the crusades were an unprovoked aggression on a peaceful Muslim people.

I'm with PhilipS, heaven forbid if we allow such thinking to embed itself in OZ!

And, did anyone see the vid taken after the incident. Have a close look, it appears like the father of the deceased children is calm --unperturbed even! until he is queued that he is on camera, then he puts on a performance --have a geeza and see what you think?

PhilipS, excellent response to Marylin Shepherd, when will the S.A. Advertiser stop and I mean stop including her writings to the Editor, we all know by now she has two or three hundred of her beloved illegal refugees living with her.

The families last night did not mention false Syrian passports, they got their passports in Lebanon, how could they get fake Syrian passports in Lebanon?

Fair dinkum, if you believe only the crap you read in the Daily Telegraph you are deluded.

It makes zero difference if they had been travelling on false passports though if they feared persecution and stated the passports were false.

Travelling on false passports is no reason to leave people to drown.

Onjb, there is simply no such thing as an illegal immigrant in Australia but there are 60,000 poms and others here without right and might be living next door to you. Fair dinkum, who are you hateful cowards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCqLfxuU9LM&feature=c4-overview&list=UUY_Bq1AF0xvPUjaAqV7kweA

See the faces of the women and kids you cowards.

Marilyn Shepherd - Please activate brain before applying fingers to keyboard, it will save embarrassment.

Quote "how could they get fake Syrian passports in Lebanon?" Of someone who provides them.

FAKES can be produced anywhere if you have the right equipment for example in a lot of countries you can get fake American, Australian etc currency by your argument this would not be possible.

To quote you again "Travelling on false passports is no reason to leave people to drown." We did not let them drown, apparently at least 4 merchant vessels and at least 1 aircraft could not find them.

At the time of the initial call we did not even know they were traveling on fake documents.

To quote you again "60,000 poms and others here" They are not on welfare with free medical, legal services and getting supported by the taxpayers. They also do not get preferential housing at the expense of THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS Australians.

ALL you above comments just defy an logical reasoning, PLEASE take note of my first line.

Well said, brother.

How long Lebanon can hold together while refugees continue to flood in from Syria is anybody's guess.

Meanwhile our Prime Minister steers us ever more deeply into the moral morass. Sooner or later we will reap what we sow.

Father Dave
www.fatherdave.org

<<Sooner or later we will reap what we sow>>

Aye brother ain't that a fact.

What do you think the long term effects would be of (trans)planting the religious divisions of Lebanon and Syria into suburban OZ?

Latest info from the man who lost wife and 8 children

QUOTE "If we had a [caring] government we wouldn't have done this and tried to leave"

They have been deported home and are there now, good on Indonesia, Australia do what they did deport ECONOMIC INVADERS.

The whole problem is the poor organisation of Middle East Societies.
The only reasonably wealthy countries in the area are financed by the
west by buying their oil.
Until they realise it is all their own fault and fix their problems
themselves the rest of the world will continue to be attacked by their
fanatical groups and be burdened by their economic refugees.
All they are doing by coming here in such numbers is to reduce our societies to their level.

If they will not help themselves why should we be bothered with them ?