- Paul seems to have conceived..of God in terms of an Angel;
not surprising,..if he appreciated..the doctrine of the Comforter Angel

This is implied..by his exhortation..on the deck of the ship:
"The Angel of God,..whose..(i.e..the Angel's?) I am, and whom I serve.

I believe God (i.e...the Angel),
that it shall be..even as it was told me"..(Acts 27:23,25).

- "Why tempt ye God,..to put a yoke upon the neck..of the disciples,
which...we were not able to bear?"..(Acts 15:10).is surely language of limitation,
as if God..was tempted to make..the Mosaic law obligatory..for all believers yet again.

Surely God Himself..would not consider doing so;..
perhaps an Angel..OR a demon..could?

or..the house of saul

It is interesting..that this action..of God
is described..as being due to.."the hand of the Lord"- an Angelic phrase-
being..with the people,..encouraging them to believe.. (Acts 11:18,21)

thus i thought..more info..is needed

Study 13:
http://www.aletheiacollege.net/angels/angels13.htm

CHAPTER 13..

is..The Comforter:..An Angel?

The point..has been made..by several expositors..that
as Israel were led..by a special Angel..through the wilderness,
whom Isaiah 63..associates with..God's Holy Spirit,..so too..the new
Israel were tobe led..by a Holy Spirit Angel,..the Comforter,..who was sent to
the church..by Jesus after His assuming..of all power over the Angels..on His ascension.

A summary..of the reasons
for thinking..this..is now attempted:

- Is. 63:7-11..describes the Angel..that guided Israel
through the wilderness..as the "Holy Spirit"- which is*..the Comforter.

- The Comforter..was sent..in God and Christ's Name (Jn. 14:26)-
the Angel..was sent..in God's Name (Ex. 23:21)

- The Comforter would teach (Jn. 14:26), guide (16:13),
be a judge (16:8) and prophesy (16:13); the Angel..guided

through the wilderness, taught God's ways,
judged Egypt and the Canaanites,..gave prophecies,..
and represented God..to Israel..as the Comforter represented Jesus to His people.

As the church ..began a new Exodus
and was constituted..God's Kingdom..in prospect
as Israel were..at Sinai,..it was fitting..that it..too..should
also have..an Angel leading them,..representing God..to them.

- The Comforter would.."shew you things to come" (Jn. 16:13)-
fulfilled by the Angel..giving the Revelation..to John.

- The Angel testified to the churches (Rev. 22:16)-
"the Comforter. . shall testify..of Me" (Jn. 15:26).

Jesus..and the Holy Spirit..together
fall into place..if the Holy Spirit has some degree
of reference..to a personal being..[in the form of an Angel]..

The error..of the doctrine..of the trinity..is not in identifying
the three..common forms..of God manifestation..[life/logic/love]

(i.e....through God Himself,..life lives
via the service..of christ Jesus..[love]
and the Holy Spirit Angel),..the logic.

This idea is worth applying to our
understanding..of the baptismal formula.

The work of..the Comforter Angel..
is to provide..the logical means

the words 'Angel'..and 'Spirit..are ..obviously
regarded as interchangeable..in the book of Acts(e.g. 8:26,29;..10:3,19,20).

In the same way..as the angel of Israel..dwelt in the temple
after delivering them,..so perhaps it is through Christ's..Comforter Angel ..that He dwells..in the spiritual..temple[works]..of the faith full..callled to serve..in christ.

- The Angel..in Revelation.."like the son of man"
(i.e...representing Him..but not Him personally)..was this same
Comforter Angel..representing Jesus..(Rev. 1:11..cp...22:13,8,16).

- We have seen..that our prayers..are presented to God
through Christ..by an Angel..(Rev. 8:4)..and that God answers prayer
through commanding..His Angels..(Num. 20:16; Dan. 9:20,21).

remembering thatpauline Jesus..is ultimately
the..only mediator..(1 Tim. 2:5)

it may be..that the mechanical presentation
of the incense..of our prayers to Him..is done by the Comforter Angel.

-The Comforter is called..“the spirit of truth”..(Jn. 14:17; 15:26; 16:13).

In the Qumran Dead Sea Scrolls literature,..
this phrase describes an Angelic Spirit
who is the leader of the “good forces”..

and ‘in whom’..the righteous walk..[Testament of Judah 20, 1-5].

The Aramaic translation..of Job,..and the targums on it,..
uses the term prqlyt to describe the Angelic spokesman
[the malak melis]..who makes a testimony..in Heaven..in Job’s defence (Job 16:19;..19:25-27; 33:23).

"Ye have an unction..from the Holy One
(the Comforter/ Holy Spirit),and ye know all things"..(1 Jn. 2:20)..is clearly alluding..to the promise of..the Comforter in Jn. 14:26;

but "Holy One".is Angelic language,..
as if the Holy One was also an Angel.

- The Comforter..is..'one called alongside'-
is this..a reference to the literal,..physical presence of the Angel?

http://new-birth.net/booklet/Wanderer_a4.pdf

You people will have to come up with more than invective to earn a place on these pages. It is not enough to simply label my writing as drivel, tosh, rubbish etc. I am beginning to suspect that you have no arguments at all.

Under One God.
Please desist! You are filling these pages with unreadable stuff to such an extent I suspect some pathology.

Hi Peter,

I posed a question to you on the first page - and one of my own drawings.

Any opinion on it, as it has religious architectural imagery, although it's not for the glory of God.

Still qualifies as art I reckon - do you agree?

Poriot,
I looked at your drawing and found it interesting. One of the problems in this thread is that commentators have a much narrower understanding of what the word "god" may mean. Indeed they go off into paroxysms when they see it. I wonder if I wrote my articles and replaced "God" with "truth" or any such they would be more amenable to what I am trying to tell them. So to say that your drawing is "to the glory of God" is not to assert some religious connection, even though the architecture is ecclesial, but to say that it points to truth, or rather in the context of my article, that it ties together the invisible and the visible. It is neither entirely representative of the perceptual world nor is it entirely of an ideal world. I think this is what art is all about and I would definitely class your drawing as art and as being to the glory of God
Peter

peter..you..ask questions
yet deny..my right of reply?

please sir..
may i speak?
dare i..even try?

i..feel like jonah
3 days..in the whale...
and peter read../.nothing

why do..you ask..
if you deny..my right of reply?

oh well..lets give it..one more try..big guy
once i post this..last/first....i will leave you..in your arty festivus fester

then..thats it
from..the johanine jester

anyhow

dear piper..
i loved..your drawing
but..i..had to..reply it here...[@911/threat].

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5984&page=0

as i..ran out..of posts..here..[my-veto]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5995&page=0

then
i presumed..peter..would ignore it
seems i was wrong..but lets move on..

forgive me peter
[only 3 to go..and im gone.].
[this is karma..for the comfort..you

gave demons./.psss christ indeed
who do you think..you..are?

poirot/quote<<..I'd be interested..in
what you..[peter sells?]..think of this:>>..

http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/Poirot4/media/fc6e26aa.jpg.html

..<<It's a drawing
I did it..for a friend..
to render..his ideas in image...

<<It's not *to the glory..of God.
More,..it's a rendering..of man's conundrum..>>

title*..suggestion
*peters conundrumb?

<..-his..[mans?]..reality amidst..>>

*his last remaining..fears/ideas...

anyhow..from..memory
[be-cause..the page froze..to a blank screen]

it looked..like..a completely empty..[*vatican]..library
that shows..the last/pope..[paul/..or our peter?]..reading the final creed/imagry..[the ps ss christ-0]
out of the one..and only book..[his own..book]..the only one..left..in the vatican..labratery..to wit..his own book..of life

[anyhow thats..what i see../saw]

so much imagery..has not been included
so..sadly left much unsaid..as to how..it got so..empty

i love..its simple-ness..its subdued light..of last light/dusk
[of the firm/hand line..drawing]..reminds me of my own etchings

we must exchange..etching/scratchings..some time[in..our eternity]

anyhow..my pleasure awaits
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0

hoping my job got dun
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5995&page=0

it turned out god..did use a special..language
that of the simple confounding..the wise

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15341&page=0

and of course
the sleeping watchmen

continued from
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15467&page=0

poirot..said..
regarding..her worthy work..of heart-art

<<..I would..consider..it "art", because..
there is a message..beyond its imagery>>

yet peter repeatedly..has refused..to EVEn..listen..let alone teach.

<<..Make of it what you will,
it's designed to make you think..>>

hit the wrong..thinker?

<<..but more..upon man's..condition me-thinks..than any truth regarding God..>>..

mate..>>
its great*

i got some..great pictures
like the church..i..love 'imagery'..but not other ones..
blood/gore/torn-flesh..and other such imagery..wrought from hell