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Immigrant nation : Comments

By Ross Elliott, published 23/8/2013

When floating your boat, Australia's been a destination for thousands of years. So what's changed?

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Rhian

We all know heartwarming tales of refugees who have made good. Some groups, notably the Vietnamese, did spectacularly.

Other groups - especially those from Afghanistan - do spectacularly badly. That's not my opinion. That's what Dept of Immigration figures say.

So let's do some arithmetic:

Suppose 30,000 refugees arrive.

Suppose every refugee is entitle to bring just one family member - a VERY conservative estimate. That makes it effectively 60,000 per year.

Suppose the net cost - in terms of various benefits - is conservatively $10,000 per year.

In ten years we're talking an annual cost of $6 billion.

Given the outcomes for some of the groups coming here I don't think that's an unreasonable estimate. Many will be getting more than $10,000 per year.

Sometimes you need to let your head rule your heart.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Friday, 23 August 2013 9:20:38 PM
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The difference between when my forebears arrived here on a boat and now is that once the ancestors hit the ground it was a case of work or starve. They mostly arrived with little and received little in way of assistance.

Yes they undoubtedly pushed aside the stone-age inhabitants to create a modern civilization as we know it today. I doubt very much that the mostly highly diluted and modern "Aboriginal" really wants to go back to the old days.

Now - the 'refugees' particularly the leaky boat variety expect, demand, creature comforts and money, aah yes lots of money from the rich Australian taxpayers. Asylum indeed.

Enough said ...
Posted by divine_msn, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:22:00 PM
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stevenlmeyer - A lot of the people coming from the region Afghanistan, Iraq etc usually have large families.

So when they get to bring the family the taxpayers have to support them.
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 24 August 2013 1:08:22 AM
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Yeah, Steven and divine_msn.

Talking about the cost.

Imagine if the people on the boats were upper middle-class mums from Malvern requesting $75,000 perks every time they had a baby.

Why it could run into billions.

(Just as well that could never happen with "real" Australians)
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 24 August 2013 1:15:35 AM
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"Many came, ironically given the current political debate, by boats"

Wow, is that because it's an island and planes hadn't been invented yet?

Immigrant nation?
Maybe, in 1823.
Those settlers had babies though. Born here, knowing no other land or people.
By the 1940s, those native Whitefella babies were 90% of the population.
Immigrants, bah!

Yes, Chinese came and weren't wanted.
That was one of the prime reasons for the 1901 Immigration Restriction Act.

"There were race riots in the late 1800s that made the Cronulla riots look tame by comparison"

A Girl Guide Sunday picnic would make the Cronulla "riots" look tame.
I think one guy bruised his elbow.

"The wogs, dagos" are European.
Part of the same cultural continuum, a related family going back 6000 years.
Hardly comparable to Asians and Africans.

Food? That's it?
That's all we get for demolishing our social reality, our gene pool, our 6000-year lineage?
Wow, a selection of takeaway options.
That was worth destroying everything for!

The Statue of Liberty is also European.
Given by the French (our distant cousins) to Americans (our siblings).

Liberty Enlightening The World.
This presumes the non-European world is unaware (darkness) of noble sentiments and wisdom.

One would think politically correct progressives would condemn it as a symbol of Eurocentric arrogance.
Typically, they have appropriated it (like the word "liberal") for their own totalitarian agenda.

Are women in burqas really "yearning to breathe free"?
Posted by Shockadelic, Saturday, 24 August 2013 4:59:45 AM
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Are women in burqas really "yearning to breathe free"?
Shocadelic,
Give them the freedom to do so & they will. Stop being a moron who threatens them & they will. You know, the greatest obstacle man faces is the stupidity of man. We can send man to the moon, to the bottom of the ocean etc but we still can't stop man from being stupid. We still have religion & Labor parties. Man still steals from those who can least afford to be robbed & still defends the fellow corrupt. Man's stupidity is man's greatest threat.
Next week we'll know if Australia is settled by more morons than thinkers. The polls say the thinkers are gaining round but one never knows what makes the stupid support the morons.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 24 August 2013 7:27:31 AM
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