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Stable Population Party 'green-washing' racism : Comments

By Malcolm King, published 22/8/2013

The anti-population party's dodgy international connections and preferences show it's true colours.

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Divergence,

I have a Mr David Duke who supports the work of NumbersUSA, especially re the illegal immigrant amnesty. I will save it for later.

David Duke was the Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan.
Posted by Malcolm 'Paddy' King, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 9:44:53 PM
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Divergence, as I said, a map showing high development levels would basically be a map of the White world.

And lo and behold, your UNDP site has one.

http://hdr.undp.org/en/data/map/

The gender equality-adjusted map is even more obviously White, with Japan disappearing and only South Korea remaining as a *significant* anomaly.

All the other countries you mention have tiny populations, so little impact on the "world" picture.

Middle Eastern people are classified Caucasoid, but are not "White", a term used only for European ancestries.
The Afro-Asiatic and Turkic cultures are unrelated to Europe.

The only non-European peoples related to us are the Indic and Iranian peoples, and that connection was severed thousands of years ago.
And the maps don't paint a rosy picture of them either.

"My own view is that if people are poor, backward, and conflict ridden, the problem is far more likely to be due to their culture than their genes."

And? Why bring people from those troublesome cultures here?
Why artificially impose a problem that never needed to exist in our society?

"Being white is clearly not a necessary or sufficient condition for very high performance."

Look at the results, not theoretical possibilities.
If you judged people by their stats, not their genes, you still end up with the same result.
It's gold, gold, gold for Whites.

There are many wise sayings about situations like this (If it ain't broke, don't fix it; When you're on a good thing, stick to it, etc.)

Why are we ignoring the wisdom of the ages for an unverifiable utopian fantasy?

We are trading in a Rolls Royce for a Subaru!
And this is an *irreversible* act.
If we decide later the Subaru just doesn't cut it, we can't get the Rolls back.
It's already been in the crusher.
Posted by Shockadelic, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 2:28:54 AM
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David Duke and Shockadelic. What a team for the white race and for a white Australia!

I have some early details about Numbers USA and will provide a more comprehensive analysis of the SPP relationship soon. I understand that it goes back some years.
Posted by Malcolm 'Paddy' King, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 8:34:35 AM
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Malcolm King,

You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel if all you can come up with is David Duke. The question is not whether Duke supports NumbersUSA, but whether NumbersUSA supports Duke. Have they invited Duke's support? Haven't you ever encountered someone who you wished didn't agree with you? Of course, the White Nationalists want lower immigration, because it keeps out people that they don't like, but that doesn't mean that there aren't good reasons for opposing unending population growth, via immigration or otherwise. You need to show that NumbersUSA is racist, not that racists might support it for reasons of their own.

Shockadelic,

Japan and South Korea aren't tiny countries, and even if a country is tiny, performing so well is still a big achievement. It is true that most of the people in the countries that perform best are white, but it is no guarantee. As you probably know, I support cutting immigration back to zero net, but that is still tens of thousands of people every year. In deciding who to take, what is wrong with judging people as individuals? If they come from an incompatible culture, then we obviously should be extra careful. Importing jihadists is stupid, but what is wrong with taking a top Arab scientist such as Ahmed Zewail, who won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry?
Posted by Divergence, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 3:16:07 PM
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Divergence,

http://americasvoiceonline.org/blog/new-cnc-report-connects-john-tanton-cis-fair-numbersusa-to-forced-sterilization-drug/

Americasvoiceonline is lefty but tends to quote reports fairly and directly. They represent the soft left: pro-environment, young, social democrats. In fact, they are your voting constituency, such as it is. The Quinacrine reports gives some damning history to Beck's allies.

The real problem you have is those meetings the SPP had with Beck in 2010 and six months ago as I reported. While Beck screams 'I'm no racist', he has strong support from sections of the Klan and the very far right of American politics, who run second hand military stores in the deep South and want little physicists such as yourself, to 'squeal like a pig'. Duke and Beck drink from the same cup but they don't like to be photographed doing it.

The SPP is gullible and naive. That's what I'd plead when both the AEC and the media come calling. In the meantime, I'd have a crack at answering those questions. Think of it as an exercise is media crisis management.

You see those meetings with Beck to start the SPP, the Tanton connection, the reports coming out now of Numbers USA tactics (see Bindi Irwin, see SPA Feb 2013), losing the Chicano vote, the revolt in the Republican party due to Beck's wedging and the SPP's attempt to wedge the green vote in Australia, are your inheritance. It's the SPP's contribution to modern Australian society. A viral racism grown in America and desperately trying to sporn here via the SPP. Well done young man.
Posted by Malcolm 'Paddy' King, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 5:15:05 PM
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We need more immigrant maths teachers! The SPA's latest media release on infrastructure spend is a cracker and repeats a shocker which I pointed out on OLO last month. Here’s the SPA release.

http://www.population.org.au/articles/2013-08-28/high-population-growth-costing-us-dearly

A couple of years ago, Dr Jane O'Sullivan, a Queensland SPP Senate Candidate, wrote that Australia's infrastructure spend is currently 25 per cent of GDP due to high population growth. Hands on belly stuff. She based her figures on Lester Thurow's 1986 article 'Why the Ultimate Size of the World's Population Doesn't Matter' in MIT's Technology Review.

Thurow estimated that it required 12.5 per cent of GDP to expand capacity at 1 per cent per year. Dr Sullivan said, "Australian estimates would suggest that figure is right in our ball-park too… So, if we're currently growing at two per cent per year, then 25 per cent of our GDP is currently being used to expand capacity to accommodate the people who are not yet here. This means that the GDP available per capita to serve current residents is 25 per cent less than the advertised per capita GDP."

That’s where you get the $200K figure spend per person. Wow. Why bother raising bonds or investing overseas? Lets all fund it off the domestic tax base! LOL.

What Lester actually said was: "If the United States had a four percent population growth rate, one half of its entire GDP would have to be devoted to investing in those new Americans."

Population growth has slowed dramatically across the developed world just as demographers predicted it would. Dr Sullivan's quote of four percent population growth is based on a Thurow hypothetical and has no relevance in the States or here.

Australia's population growth rate is 1.8 with the trend rate at 1.4. Australia's spend on infrastructure, as a percentage of GDP, was 10.5 per cent in 2012.

SPA boss Goldie cites the 2006 Productivity Commission which states that immigrant have little economic worth – except for all those who start businesses, employ people, pay taxes, develop cures for cancer or see below:

http://www.theage.com.au/executive-style/strive/they-came-they-conquered-20130419-2i4wf.html
Posted by Malcolm 'Paddy' King, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 8:05:53 PM
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