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God meets a different standard of proof : Comments

By Richard Shumack, published 1/8/2013

Celebrity atheist Lawrence Krauss will face off against Christian apologist William Craig, but will they meet the appropriate standard of proof.

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http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14954#14954

Q..<It will be seen..that we are thus
naturally led up..to higher phenomena,..and are enabled,..to bridge over the great gulf..between the so-called natural..and super*natural.

edited

http://transcommunication.org/index.php/transcripts

ok..chose albert einstein
Quote:

edited..albert:..''To make sure..it’s really me''?

edited..I would like..my contribution..to this series
to explore the role..of the scientist..in viewing and participating in..the evolution of the planet..,.

From what I’ve gathered,..this seems to be a key
precept..and basis for each of the interviews...Is that correct?

Questioner:..Yes..participating..in God’s work
in one way or another,as a physician,..a horticulturist,a writer,..a scientist.. or whatever.

Answer:..Well,
one of the major roles..of the scientist
is to view,*..analyse,..and begin to understand..the laws governing the manifestation*..of life..on the physical-plane..

and*..other planes,..too,
but for now..I will confine my comments..to the physical-plane.

I will..try to describe..how divine forces..in-fluence..and govern physical-matter..and how the ideas..of the Creator..move into the worlds..of manifestation.

I think..I will begin there,
and then..we can proceed onto..other topics.

edited..Let’s begin,then,
with the premise*..that the work..of a scientis —
and this was certainly true for me—..is involved..in understanding these laws..[this]..requires a willingness..to look at them..in a fuller perspective..than many scientists do.

The truly successful..scientists..are those who take into
account*..something..more/than..what is occurring physically..they also take into account..the divine perspective.

Not too many..do this,..however.

In fact,..very few scientists..take into account
the divine perspective..of physical manifestation...Most of them focus only on the physical aspects..and do not try/to understand..*why..there is physical-existence..and what*physical life..means..in the greater scheme/of things.

Question:Well,..why is there physical-existence?

Answer:edited..so that life..can gain..the experience..in manipulating..and dealing..in denser-matter/mortality.

edited

In..the same way,..the life..of God
is thrashing about..in physical-matter.

The concept..of perfection for physical manifestation..does exist in the mind of God,..but..what is actually being manifested..through
physical substance..*is less than perfect...

yet..It is moving..toward perfection.

New ideas arise,..in every field..of human endeavour,..every year.
Some are worthwhile,..some are not.

Most are just variations..or opinions of ideas
that have already been..enunciated...they pile one..on top of another,..contributing more..*to the mass of human-thought..and knowledge..*..than to its quality.!*!
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 8:00:24 PM
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extraCTED FROM
http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14958#14958

FROM
http://transcommunication.org/index.php/transcripts

QUOTE
<<There are times when the sub-conscious mind
acts on various thoughts of yours even in the waking/state.

There are also numbers of persons who even use the subconscious mind more than the commonly..conscious. The souls of these individuals are more or less inspired, as they are ..lol..more often artists of some distinction.

They are always called the dreamers of the world by their fellows.
The look of the distant soul-fire..is shining gloriously in their eyes.

All their ideas are born through the ideal, while the prosaic mind
only forms its ideas through clear-eyed reason.

The sub-conscious mind
dreams dreams which are not even realized.

Hypnotic demonstration
must always act upon the sub-conscious mind and most of the so-called wonders of hypnosis are simply..the actions of the subconscious mind moved by the operator.

Persons who are much given to somnambulism, develop a certain lively action of the sub-conscious mind and often their movements are foolish and aimless, but at times they display a great amount of speed and intelligence.

Somnambulism is a phase of the sub-conscious mind's action that has been studied by many of the best scientific men in your world for many years...But aside from the mental demonstration of the sub-conscious mind, we can find no physical demonstration whatever.

Much of the phenomena of Spiritualism is said to be due to the sub-conscious mind; but if this is true, then all the phenomena of Nature are caused by mind action simply.

This, my friends, you will have to deny, and as the materialization of Nature's garden is acted upon by the same laws as form or spirit materialization,*>>

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Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 8:37:49 AM
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cause the logicalminds were here
but now seem gone

last post
as..it seems i chased everyone away..

got trolled off topic..
as previous post..exposes
[as my unconscious mind dominated..thus killed topic..in my zeal]

Sane New World:..Taming The Mind
by Ruby Wax[43 minutes on bbc podcast][last night]

thus/this..maybe a repeat?
but if same 1.. as last night its gold
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02qd1qw

Comedian, writer and mental health campaigner shows us why and how our minds can send us mad and how we can rewire our thinking, especially through mindfulness, to calm ourselves in a frenetic world.

Ruby Wax - comedian, writer and mental health campaigner - shows us how our minds can jeopardize our sanity. With her own periods of depression and now a Masters from Oxford i...more Comedian, writer and mental health campaigner shows us why and how our minds can send us mad and how we can rewire our thinking, especially through mindfulness, to calm ourselves in a frenetic world.

Ruby Wax..shows us how our minds can jeopardize our sanity.

With her own periods of depression and now a Masters from Oxford in Mindfulness-based Cognitive Therapy to draw from, she explains how our busy, chattering, self-critical thoughts drive us to anxiety and stress.

If we are to break the cycle, we need to understand how our brains work, rewire our thinking and find calm in a frenetic world. Helping you become the master, not the slave, of your mind, here is the manual to saner living(less)

free ebook download..yet..asks for creditcard?

http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.gobookee.net/ruby-wax-sane-new-world/&sa=U&ei=Rd4CUomMFciaiQfKkIGYCQ&ved=0CCoQFjAC&sig2=8iy-16FKOWriEo9nej_7eg&usg=AFQjCNERXL-icsDOtiiyiSX3RRNT3Z6bkQ
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 8 August 2013 10:08:06 AM
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i was going to post this on..other topic
but presume this one has the most 'readers'

but people got the right..to know
what is being done to them..via faux ..authority collusion's

http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/the-inconvenient-tooth-there-is-poison-in-the-tap-water-full-version/

An Inconvenient Tooth is a documentary film about fluoride. Fluoride does horrible damage to human bones, thyroids, the pineal gland, and many other areas of the body, yet big industry, the medical establishment, and those in government continue to promote its use in tap water and in tooth paste and dental treatments.

more..trust us
the science
http://enenews.com/senior-scientist-100-times-more-strontium-than-cesium-in-water-at-fukushima-plant-strontium-gets-into-your-bones-it-changes-the-equation-for-japanese-fisheries-not-too-concerned-u-s

Senior Scientist: 100 times more strontium than cesium in water at Fukushima plant — “Strontium gets into your bones… it changes the equation for Japanese fisheries” — Not “too” concerned U.S. fish will be affected

Researchers propose new experiments
on NEW..mutant bird flu
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/researchers-propose-new-experiments-on-mutant-bird-flu/53241

Scientists proposed developing a more potent strain of the deadly H7N9 bird flu on Wednesday to examine how mutant forms might spread among humans, a topic that has stoked global alarm in the past

back up plan
http://oneradionetwork.com/latest/its-all-playing-out-just-as-we-were-told-article/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/get-ready-for-endless-bogus-terror-alerts/56696/

why

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-new-economy-is-the-no-jobs-economy-2/56722/

http://intellihub.com/2013/08/07/time-magazine-glamorizes-life-without-children/

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/ben-fulford-real-life-assassins-and-their-role/53230

http://www.responsibletechnology.org/posts/this-little-piggy-was-fed-gmos/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/08/06/genetic-modification.aspx?e_cid=20130806_DNL_art_2&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art2&utm_campaign=20130806

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/rumsfeld911.html

po-lice state mate
http://xrepublic.tv/node/4764

get your own info
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 8 August 2013 3:38:32 PM
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a great 3 minutes of vidio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73_ds1xQmD4&feature=player_embedded

how were keeping our guides busy
lesson in civics
http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/05/13/a-basic-civics-lesson-for-pseudo-historians/#.UgLiE03E6vE

http://investmentwatchblog.com/wealth-redistribution-is-the-result-of-how-money-is-created/

http://whatreallyhappened.com/
http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/
http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html

http://oneradionetwork.com/latest/its-all-playing-out-just-as-we-were-told-article/

work while you have work
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-new-economy-is-the-no-jobs-economy-2/56722/

they dont got the science
but glimpse the future..no kids
http://intellihub.com/2013/08/07/time-magazine-glamorizes-life-without-children/

or pay to get pregnant..

how on earth did our parents get pregers so easily

no gm
no flueride
no free drugs
no over servicing
Posted by one under god, Friday, 9 August 2013 11:32:14 AM
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The Bombs of August..:
In Remembrance..of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/editorial/reggies-commentary/3241-the-bombs-of-august-in-remembrance-of-hiroshima-and-nagasaki.html
Nagasaki is famous..in the history..of Japanese/Christianity.
The history..of Nagasaki..*Christianity
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-bombing-of-nagasaki-august-9-1945-the-un-censored-version/5345274

68 years ago at 11:02/am..on August 9th,1945,
*an..all-Christian bomber crew..dropped a plutonium bomb,on Nagasaki,Japan.

Somewhat ironically,..Nagasaki..was the most Christian city..in Japan and..ground zero..was the largest cathedral..in the Orient* St. Mary’s Cathedral..(completed in 1917),

but it also..had the largest concentration of baptized/Christians..in all of Japan...with 12,000 baptized members.

Hiroshima, Nagasaki and the Big Historical Lie
http://orwellwasright.co.uk/2013/08/06/hiroshima-nagasaki-and-the-big-historical-lie/

śLittle Boy” atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima
at a location and time of day when, as the Strategic Bombing Survey commissioned by President Harry Truman..conceded,nearly all the school children ..were at work..in the open”,

a perfect opportunity for mass incineration.!…
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/americas-legacy-of-nuclear-terrorism/56340/
..* and we knew..we didn’t need to do it,
*and,,*they knew..that we knew we didn’t..need to do it,
we used them..as an experiment for two atomic bombs.”

Why Medicine Won’t Allow Cancer to Be Cured
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/08/07/why-medicine-wont-allow-cancer-to-be-cured/

Waking Times

Imagine a commercial plane crashed and there were some fatalities involved...You can be sure that would make the headline of every major newspaper...Well,we have the equivalent of 8-10 planes crashing..*EVERY DAY..with everyone on board dying from cancer.

http://www.naturalnews.com/041512_Gardasil_ovary_destruction_HPV_vaccine.html

Seralini to visit UK to speak about his research
(on links between GMOs and increased cancer risks)
http://www.gmwatch.org/index.php/news/archive/2013/14946-seralini-to-visit-uk-to-speak-about-his-research

There are powerful forces..that don’t want you to hear..The US is currently trying to force GM foods..into Europe through the EU-US free trade agreement ..nd sees Britain as the weak link in European resistance to GM.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/08/06/genetic-modification.aspx?e_cid=20130806_DNL_art_2&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art2&utm_campaign=20130806

That’s not because the British people want GM..they overwhelmingly do not..but because our government is rabidly pro-GM..and is moving in lockstep..with US government lobbied interests on the issue.

http://www.responsibletechnology.org/posts/this-little-piggy-was-fed-gmos/

Environment secretary Owen Paterson..mouthpiece for GM industry talking points,even

Study:..Hating on Fat People..Just Makes Them Fatter
http://refreshingnews99.blogspot.in/2013/08/study-hating-on-fat-people-just-makes.html

There's no denying obesity..is a problem.
While we know many ways..to fight it,..we haven't found an easy, cure-all solution...*We do know what doesn't work,..however...One of those things may surprise you: ..riticizing fat people won't make them skinnier

same/same..but drugs
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-scary-drug-raids-became-a-cash-cow-for-americas-police-2013-7

http://www.biblesociety.org.au/news/churches-acknowledge-stolen-land
http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-wtf-new-study-shows-us-debt-6-times-greater-than-officially-declared-its-not-12-trillion-its-70-trillion/

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/06/when_fundamentalists_get_liberal_about_the_bible_partner/?source=newsletter&utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Salon_Daily%20Newsletter%20%28Text%29_7_30_110

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbMjAN7Bws#at=19

http://www.naturalblaze.com/2013/08/dear-doctor-do-you-really-know-what.html
http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-theorem-shakes-foundations-1.9392
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/researchers-propose-new-experiments-on-mutant-bird-flu/53241

http://www.newsforage.com/2013/08/harvard-scientists-create-telepathic.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/041464_glyphosate_Monsanto_toxicity.html
Posted by one under god, Friday, 9 August 2013 9:56:47 PM
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