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Refugee policy: I’m not feeling good : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 30/7/2013

Our political process has been poisoned by an artificial crisis created by John Howard and milked by him and his successor Tony Abbott for everything it is worth.

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SPQR - I think he really will regret that statement.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 1 August 2013 6:01:58 PM
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SPQR,

What's your point?

That pollies contort the truth to suit their agenda.

Really.....?!

I asked you for some hard evidence to counter the assumption that the immigration department processes it's asylum applications properly.

Where's your evidence?
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 1 August 2013 6:07:24 PM
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Poriot,

<<what is your point?>>

See below:

Poriot: "I take official statements on process as evidence"

SPQR: *but, Poriot, Bob is head of the Dept (can't get much more offical than that!). And Bob is on record as saying asylum "seekers" have been defrauding and beating the processes/system in large numbers*

Poriot: *I choose not to believe what Bob Carr said -- he's lying*

SPQR: *So, Poriot, you don't believe ALL official statements --you choose to believe ONLY those which reinforce your prejudices!
Posted by SPQR, Thursday, 1 August 2013 6:21:44 PM
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Some of Poirot's poor boat people:

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/07/some-great-aussies-live-on-christmas-island-meet-a-dead-set-patriot-shaz-with-the-telephoto-lens.html

Odds on that they will be wearing comancheros' colours as soon as they hit the mainland.

Poirot's naivety and gullibility as expressed in government policy is simply throwing Australia under a bus.
Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 1 August 2013 8:56:34 PM
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Poirot,
You have yet to answer my question.

Clue: You will find the answer by comparing the percentage of asylum seekers approved of the legal arrivals, to the percentage of approvals for asylum of the illegal arrivals. Your link to the DIAC may help you.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 1 August 2013 10:13:42 PM
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SPQR,

Nice try....

I'm referring to official policy, procedure and protocols "within government departments". - not to election propaganda or promises....especially those by individual and/or high-profile pollies.

Where's your hard evidence that asylum seekers are not being processed properly?

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Banjo,

Don't quite know what you're getting at.

For non-IMA's (fly-ins)

The Primary grant rate was 25.3%

Of those initially refused and reviewed, the Final grant rate was 44%.

For IMA's

Primary decision - 71% were considered and decided - in the first instance. and found to be refugees.

Final grants - A total of 4766 Protection Visas were granted to irregular maritime arrivals in 2011-12, representing 68%
of such grants."
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 2 August 2013 8:37:45 AM
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