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Refugee policy: I’m not feeling good : Comments
By Bruce Haigh, published 30/7/2013Our political process has been poisoned by an artificial crisis created by John Howard and milked by him and his successor Tony Abbott for everything it is worth.
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Posted by misanthrope, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 3:11:35 PM
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People who arrive by air have a passport and a visa ie an identity unlike those that discard their documents when arriving illegally by boat. If people contravene the conditions of their visa they are deported to their point of departure so to compare those that arrive by boat with those that arrive by air is rubbish.
How many refugees would you accept Bruce? A 100,000, a 1,000,000? What happens when your quota is full? Posted by AllanL, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 3:48:34 PM
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JBowyer writes: “Bruce this rant is not even a disguised version of I hate the LNP and love the ALP”
It’s amazing how some manage to get so immersed in the faux rivalry between Tweedledum and Tweedledee. Far from “I love the ALP” Bruce Haigh wrote (in the context of a lot of twaddle equating the Howard anti-refugee war to Boer fascism): “Our political process has been poisoned by an artificial crisis created by John Howard and milked by him and his successor Tony Abbott for everything it is worth. To try and cut Abbott off at the pass Rudd has had to resort to tactics that dive lower than Abbott.” Not too ALP-loving! Howard has form with creation of artificial crises based on lies. Exceeding the “children overboard” lies he and his gang poured forth a tissue then a deadly drumbeat of Iraqi WMD lies building a case for an invasion that flouted the same laws that Hitler broke in invading Poland. He later blamed the intelligence community, and vilified the only spook who had the decency to break ranks and tell the truth. That’s Howard. That’s the Libs. Beside that, the rest is small change. Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 4:22:54 PM
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But Indonesia is not our country, why do people always insist that we can use other countries to do our work? Using Indonesia is no different to using Manus or Nauru because we still refuse then to accept the refugees while we pretend to be helping refugees in camps.
We do not help any refugees in camps, so with the refugees in camps mob just leave it alone. The fact is we just have to accept that it is perfectly legal to sail here to seek protection, stop the apartheid prisons and just treat everyone the same. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/die-somewhere-else-20130726-2qq3s.html Second, offshore resettlement programs can be subtly biased in favour of those who know how to work bureaucratic systems. Form 80 from the Department of Immigration and Citizenship, to be completed ''neatly in English using block letters'', states that ''if you are applying for a refugee/humanitarian visa you must provide all addresses for the last 30 years (both month and year are required with no gaps)'' - not so hard for a bureaucrat, but not so easy for a non-literate widow. Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/die-somewhere-else-20130726-2qq3s.html#ixzz2aVdVP500 Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 4:52:31 PM
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Marilyn Shepherd - You skate around the truth with such style, just to put a little truth into your argument.
Australian taxpayers do financially support some refugees in Indonesia that have been found to be genuine but are waiting there turn, which incidentally gets longer with the arrival of the Economic Invaders also coming from Indonesia. A Quote from your link "While this would be more expensive, the notion that Australia is just too poor to contemplate such a system is simply ludicrous, especially when one looks at far poorer countries that accept vastly more refugees than Australia does. An absolutely deceptive statement because those other poorer countries GIVE THEM NOTHING NOT 1 CENT, the refugees in the poor countries are supported by us and other countries. Just how many Economic Invaders disguised as refugees do you think we should accept? Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 5:41:35 PM
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Julian I cannot let you get away with that nonsense. The "Refugees" held their children in the air to show them to our Navy and then scuttled the boat. So the Children certainly went overboard and it was all those rotten little pirates fault. JH was not to blame one iota and frankly Haigh should leave his 5 star life and talk to the normal ordinary Australian and find we are sick to death of these miserable scum trying it on.
Boat with 200 people sinks and the only ones to die are women and children? Just the sort of people Haig wants? Well the majority of us do not agree. Roll on the election! Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 5:56:42 PM
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I don't like you Mr Haig, because you and your types are just spoilt brats, and never done a days work in your lives.